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Stanford advisers want their CD commissions

Ten former Stanford financial advisers are asking a federal judge to release their personal funds that have been frozen since regulators shut Stanford down in February. The advisers are from Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania and North Carolina, The Advocate reported today. Six are among 66 advisers the court appointed receiver, Ralph Janvey, sued in April to recover $4.4 million he calls “ill-gotten proceeds from a fraudulent scheme.”

The only Lafayette adviser named in the April suit is Tiffany Angelle, who earned almost $700,000 in CD commissions from January 2007 to January 2009. Angelle was vice president of the River Ranch office. The receiver is also seeking $1.4 million in commissions from Hank Mills of Baton Rouge, who worked closely with Angelle in the Lafayette market. 

The 10 advisers say they, like investors, should be considered innocent victims in the alleged Ponzi scheme. They say they too were duped.

Not so, says Jean Anne Mayhall of Folsom, who lost 100 percent of her retirement savings when the SEC shut down the company and its Caribbean-based bank. She told The Advocate there is overwhelming evidence of red flags the advisers should have seen:

“As we get deeper into this and see the tremendous amount of information that the (advisers) had … then it increasingly becomes an issue of a single trap baited at various points,” Mayhall said.
She said the advisers “knew, should have known, could have known, did know or just plain kept it under wraps.
“No matter how you look at it, the clients … were lured and trapped, then hung out to dry,” Mayhall said.

Investors believe they should recover some of their losses before any advisers’ funds are released. The issue of clawbacks against investors who cashed out or transferred money to other funds, including the potential clawback of their principal, is still tied up in court. 

In a statement posted on his Web site, Janvey says, “The brokerage services performed by the financial advisors in exchange for the compensation payments were not legitimate and did not confer any benefit on their customers.” He also says the former advisers “have no rightful ownership interest that could justify their retaining possession of the funds.” Janvey is only attempting to recover commissions from Stanford brokers who received at least $200,000 in CD commissions during the past two years.

Arguing against the return of Stanford advisers' commissions, Janvey argues in court documents filed July 28: "New SIB CD purchase money funded loans, commissions, bonuses, and other compensation to financial advisors so they would be motivated to move their clients out of other legitimate investment vehicles and into fraudulent SIB CDs and to keep their clients’ money under the control of the Defendants [R. Allen Stanford et al]."

Read the rest of The Advocate story here.



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written by Myrick6 , August 04, 2009 - 04:04 pm
Name them. I want to know their names. I hope the courts are not too quick to award in their favor. No reason to hurry. Once its given, the court would have a hard time getting that money back. Lets see how much each one knew about what was going on. If they knew people were being taken to the cleaners, they should not be entitled to any of that money. It should go to the investors they represented.
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written by Defrauded , August 04, 2009 - 04:09 pm
Heck, go ahead and give Allen Stanford his money too. He's a victim as well. NOT.

Come on. These guys sold FRAUDULENT securities and cost thousands of retirees their life's savings. Now they want their commissions back? We want our investments back.
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written by RCA , August 04, 2009 - 07:37 pm
Thes employees did not know of the fraud. They were just as much duped as the clients. They stand in the same shoes s the clients. These CD's were sold for years and they seemed to work....after all the States, NASD/FINRA, the SEC, the FBI etc..etc all knew about the CD's. If any of the sales people at Stanford did know, then they should go to jail too. Janvey needs to find the other 6 billion, and not worry about clawing back 40 million form the Stanford employees. He has already spent 20 million or more of our money! Baker Botts...Janveys Atty...has a huge bill that needs to be paid!!!
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written by Eagle Dropping , August 04, 2009 - 09:28 pm
The reps were selling product, pure and simple. They did their jobs, they're entitled to their commissions. They were assured by a legal team and a compliance unit that these were safe investment vehicles, and as long as they were blessed by the SEC and FINRA, these people did nothing wrong. Reps are salespeople, not lawyers or analysts. They sell product. If you buy a suit at Brooks Brothers that you later learned was made by Kathie Lee Gifford-like child slave labor, should the salesperson be stripped of his commission?
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written by Myrick6 , August 05, 2009 - 01:28 pm
Just because you do an honest job for a crook, you are not guaranteed anything. I say, hold on to the money, 'cause once its given, it won't be able to be taken back. I think the courts should decide if there is reason to believe they knew it might have been a house of cards. If employees suspected things weren't on the up and up, but the money was too good, then they should not reap ill gotten goods. Then the money should go to the people they stole from.
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written by Duped Also , August 06, 2009 - 05:46 am
Think about what some of you are saying. To think that 100 advisers management employees knew about the fraud is ludicrous. How long can a secret be kept among even 5 friends? Someone will always spill the beans. Plus I know several of the long time advisers. Good guys with high morals. They would not have stayed associated with a known crook. Plus many of them had their own money, family and friends’ money in the CDs. They have lost money also. Some of them have even lost their careers and face years of law suits.
Enron, WorldCom, HealthSOuth, Madoff, etc. All financial frauds involved a very small number of people. I don’t believe for one moment that any of the advisers knew. Sure they were making a commission. Exactly what my guy told me he made-1% of the CD amount per year. In my business we would starve if we were paid that small a commission. I knew exactly what I was buying. A 7% CD when local banks were paying 5% in a non-FDIC bank. It said this in ALL CAPS along with THIS IS A RISKY INVESTMENT. But I had known several people who had been drawing interest for years from the bank. So I read the financial statement and made a deposit
The difference might be that my adviser advised me to never invest more than 20% of my money in any one investment. Even an FDIC insured bank. So my loss is limited, although still painful. But to blame my broker would be ridiculous as I am sure he is a victim as well. He actually lost more than I did plus his other money is still frozen.

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written by Trusting Investor , August 07, 2009 - 06:16 am
Let me get this straight - these guys were paid to give FINANCIAL advice and sold fraudulent CDs they got paid what looks like an absurd amount of money for and now they think they're innocent? No wonder the financial sector is in shambles. Any snakeoil salesman off the street can sell securities. A salesman should not take on that kind of responsibility or fiduciary duty. This was decades of people's retirement savings. No one should be working to close a deal when there is that kind of risk involved. Those guys knew better and if they still don't see they really screwed up, then they are too stupid to understand their own industry. Three words: breech of duty.
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written by Big Dave , August 28, 2009 - 03:14 am
Hmmm, Bear Sterns, Lehman, Wachovia, Citi.... the list goes on. Advice in the financial sector is build on trust from top to bottom. when the guys at the top lie and cheat everyone gets hurt and yes the advisors got hurt too. In order to sell of represent anything, you have to do your due dilligence but at the end of the day you also trust the leaders of your company. I worked at BofA for a bunch of years and I can tell you the employees did not know that Ken Lewis was lying about the health of Merrrill
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