Comments for CPC to get red-light camera rebuttal at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 5 out of 5 comments http://www.theind.com Thu, 23 May 2013 21:07:10 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/10350-cpc-to-get-red-light-camera-rebuttal#comment-26528 I think we should seek the best solutions for safety. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration performed a 2 year study on accident causation. Speed alone came in last at 5%. You have a better chance of causing an accident by sleeping or dying at the wheel. It makes sense. After Mr. Tramel presented his first photo enforcement report a citizen engineer used a blue card to present his analysis of Mr. Tramel’s data. He said the report omitted numbers at intersections where there had been no accidents before the cameras. He also cited a number of other dalliances with the numbers statistically. Mr. Tramel did not rebut. When yellow light times are set relative to federal safety guidelines the cameras have been bankrupted by the steep decline in red light violations. Why aren't the Lafayette cameras bankrupting themselves already with safety improvements? They are ineffective unless the goal is revenue. This is evident in the Redflex videos hosted by the Advertiser. Safety improvements are detrimental to revenue generation. A number of cities have been caught reducing yellow light times to increase red light running and revenue. When I worked in law enforcement I sought out people tailgating and cutting in and out of traffic. Photo enforcement narrowly focuses in the wrong direction. - Chuck Cottrell Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:53:18 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/10350-cpc-to-get-red-light-camera-rebuttal#comment-26526 If the posted speed limits were set to maximize safety and smooth traffic flow AND if traffic lights were engineered to maximize safety with minimum red light violation rates -- ticket cameras would not record enough violations to even pay their own costs of operation, let alone make the obscene profits they do. Engineering for maximum safety reduces speed and red light violations by MORE than ticket cameras. Unfortunately, maximum traffic safety is not profitable, so many cities prefer to have high ticket revenues rather than high safety results. It is corrupt, but quite profitable. See the science on our website and if it makes sense to you, perhaps you will join us to help get ticket cameras banned. You can also contact both local and state officials to demand that ticket cameras NOT be used. James C. Walker, National Motorists Association, www.motorists.org, Ann Arbor, MI - James Walker Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:18:05 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/10350-cpc-to-get-red-light-camera-rebuttal#comment-26522 Warren your comments are disingenuous. Speed does not kill as most people think, but it is the misapplication of the speed which kills. You state "I have noticed that my driving behavior has changed for the better, in part due to the cameras and radar" did you have an out of body experience? You must be able to step back and analyze your driving behavior from a non-insidious point of view, amazing. Your comments are Kool-Aid persisted by a company with no moral compass, usurping money for traffic safety. - Barnet Fagel Sat, 21 Apr 2012 14:52:09 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/10350-cpc-to-get-red-light-camera-rebuttal#comment-26520 Hey Warren, do you WORK for the vendor or one of their front groups? I get the impression you might. I have seen too often the comment from the scamera side "my driving behavior has changed for the better" in one form or another. IF you are for real (NOT WORKING for the vendors, police, or front group), it is a free counrty, but if you are doing a ASTRO truf post. TELL THE PUBLIC WHO YOU ARE THEN! No more Bill Kroskes who worked for ATS while posting PRETENDING to be a local http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20110517/BLOG48/705179793! www.banthecams.org - Stephen Donaldson Sat, 21 Apr 2012 06:19:41 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/10350-cpc-to-get-red-light-camera-rebuttal#comment-26517 Two weeks ago I was headed home from Red's early one morning. I was photographed as RedFlex -SafeSpeed radar caught me exceeding the speed limit. I believe this is the third time I have had my picture taken by RedFlex since he technology came into use. I have noticed that my driving behavior has changed for the better, in part due to the cameras and radar. Paying the fine does get my attention. But I prefer that to an accident and perhaps personal injury. The data that has been shared indicates this technology doe shave a positive impact in changing drivers' behavior. I feel that innovations like this, which evidence shows modifies behavior to increase safety, and at the same time generates revenue for the city, makes this a win-win. - Warren Hebert Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:36:33 +0100