Comments for The Ugly Secret at Little Bayou at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 7 out of 7 comments http://www.theind.com Wed, 22 May 2013 03:48:12 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/12736-the-ugly-secret-at-little-bayou#comment-27671 great article..... http://www.sideeffectactos.com/ - Jeff Nadrich Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:51:52 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/12736-the-ugly-secret-at-little-bayou#comment-27668 Show us your proof my gallant cavalier, although, I admire your defense of the Schwing family name, we wait a judiciary writ on the matter, it will all come out in the wash, court records can be altered, but then of course nevah in your family's dealings, show me a legal paper this Charley Jones evah existed ! Was this Mr.Charley Jones also born in Havaii ? I'll defer from aguing with your childish mis-spelled prose, Massa Schwing . - Ciano Leal Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:41:36 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/12736-the-ugly-secret-at-little-bayou#comment-27651 Patrick, thanks for posting my Facebook comments here. I discussed this issue with my Father and with very little effort he was able to locate records in his file as well as those at the Iberia Parish Courthouse that support my assertions. He has documents dating back to 1905 before there was ever any oil exploration at Little Bayou. There are also documents authorizing Texas Oil to drill on Schwing Family property adjacent to the Carriere Property. Interstingly, in my Great Grandfather's correspondence authrorizing that drilling it spells out how far inside the property line the drilling is to occur. It also mentions that he does not want the house nearby to be disturbed by the activity. His concern was for the residents there not being able to live comfortably during the drilling. It is clearer to me now that my assertion of no wrongdoing by my family in this matter is supported by these documents. It is also apparent from reviewing a map dated in 1938 that the Carriere Property did not cross Little Bayou. The 23 acres to which Ms. Bethel refers was solely north of Little Bayou. The poperty south of Little Bayou is shown to belong to the Duhe Family. Another interesting discovery not related to the Schwing Family is that the courthouse records show that Charley Jones acquired the Carriere Property some 7 years before he sold it to the Romero Family. That was easily found and I suspect it should be just as easy to ascertain how he acquired it. Since that has nothing to do with the Schwing Family, I have no interest in researching that matter. As for Ciano Leal's comments, it's easy to come on to a comment board and make accusations without any supporting evidence. Show us your proof. Don't just post baseless claims. No one will take you seriously. I know I don't. - Armond Schwing Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:28:18 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/12736-the-ugly-secret-at-little-bayou#comment-27649 Mais I knew that My Paw Paw nevah took nuttin. Mais Non, Mon Bleu ! If there is $$$$$$$ involved, reputation be damn. Now.... if we could force all the sheriffs to return those parcels thy personally purchased when the property tax notices were redirected from the original land owners . Naw Massa, would'nt do dat. And prose be damn too. - Ciano Leal Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:20:08 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/12736-the-ugly-secret-at-little-bayou#comment-27647 Mr. Schwing writes well. I don't know him but I know others of the Schwing Clan and they generally hold a good reputation. - Gene Broussard Mon, 04 Feb 2013 12:16:24 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/12736-the-ugly-secret-at-little-bayou#comment-27643 [Editor's Note: Here's a comment posted by Armond Schwing on IND Monthly's Facebook page.] What a piece of Sensational Journalism! John Elmer Schwing was my Great Grandfather. I know a little bit of history about our family's property near the area Ms. Bethel is speaking about. The issue the article does not delve into is the fact that when a well is drilled a "unit" is formed. That "unit" includes adjacent landowners within a certain distance Whatever royalties my family derived were as a result of owning the land on which wells were drilled or owning land that fell within those boundaries of a certain "unit." Even if the Carrier family was not paid any royalties as Ms. Bethel asserts, it does not mean that others who were paid got the royalties that should have gone to the Carrier Family. It is possible that Texas Oil just didn't pay the Carrier Family. It's also possible that Mayo Romero was paid the Carrier Family royalties because he bought them. I can't speak to what really happened with what might have been their share because I don't know. However, I am fairly confident that my Great Grandfather would not have taken anything that did not belong to him. By all accounts he was an honorable man with a record of being very gracious and helpful to any and all who he could assist. Heck, he even spent his own money to buy the property where the current Iberia Parish Courthouse is situated because it had been identified as desirable by the Parish Leaders of the time and the Parish didn't have the money to secure the location. When the Parish got the money, he sold them the land for what he paid for it, not a dime more. This article should have been written after a little more invesitgative work. To imply that neaby landowners getting royalties off of oil production must have done something improper is plain wrong. The oil under the ground know no boundaries. However, the payment for the extraction of that oil goes to the landowners above the area from which that oil comes. To put it in terms that might be easier to understand, imagine you own a piece of land 100' x 100' with four different landowners on each side of that square. If an oil well was drilled on your property, the adjacent landowners would be paid because the oil came from under those adjacent landowners' property. Those adjacent landowners didn't get anything that wasn't rightfully theirs! Phanat, just like most Hollywood Scripts this one would appear to contain a good bit of fiction. There is danger in drawing conclusions without supporting evidence. As it relates to my family's involvement, there is nothing in the article that remotely ties the royalties paid to the Schwing Family to the royalties that supposedly weren't paid to the Carrier Family. The implication of such is simply ridiculous. - Patrick Flanagan Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:30:06 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/12736-the-ugly-secret-at-little-bayou#comment-27633 Ms. Bethel needs to realize there are likely millions of dollars at stake on her claim which even David Duke would be forced to rule in favor of the descendants of the Carrie family on this illegal ripping off the Carrier family and the descendants of the Carrier family. The Texas Company, ( known today as having merged with another California company ) is none other than Texaco Inc, who fleeced this state of millions, if not billions of dollars by paying off Looney Huey Long, The King fish himself, not just at Little Bayou but throughout the state, from Sulphur La. to Plaquemine La. Not to speak of all the tons of sugar cane, What a typical Louisiana case scenerio ! - Ciano Leal Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:24:03 +0100