Comments for re: Pervasive Madness at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 13 out of 13 comments http://www.theind.com Tue, 18 Jun 2013 06:41:40 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2223 Quake, quake. - BarfGagWheeze Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:57:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2222 Why the need to call people names like "birthers" Walter? Sounds like you are still in high school. That would explain your immature attack on the legitimate concern about the nationality of our president. - Alice Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:14:11 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2195 Last Call, thanks for the correction. My mistake, I did mean "natural born". And it is the Congress that is charged with determining whether qualifications are met, not FactCheck or the State Dept., or Hawaii Dept of Health. So, Down to Earth, it's not good enough for me. I had to produce a birth certificate to get a passport, or get married, not an email from Factcheck.org. - Phil Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:34:46 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2185 Hey, Phil, here's what the Constitution says "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President" Naturalized is not the same as natural born Citizen. If a naturalized citizen could be President then Arnold the Governator could run. Alas, Arnold can't. Although I would love to see him blow away Congress with a Mini-Gun on his hip. - Last Call Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:03:17 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2182 You know Walter, the Constitution says you have to be a "naturalized citizen" to be President. So far, I haven't seen the proof of that for Barry Soetero, even though people are asking, and it is a legitimate question, whether you like it or not. I'm not a "birther", I'm a strict constitutionalist. As a veteran, I, and my fellow veterans, swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies. It's not a piece of Charmin toilet paper for you to wipe your butt when you feel like it. When you start selectively deciding which part of the Constitution doesn't apply anymore, where do you stop? Maybe you can't exercise a free press. Maybe you can't own a gun. Maybe it will be okay to own slaves. I'm tired of hearing that there are different rules. If a white guy was running for President, and couldn't prove they were born in the US, or which hospital, or which doctor delivered, you and the press would be all over it like crawfish on a chicken neck. Admit it. And stop calling us "birthers", just because you don't believe in the Constitution. The very second an actual birth certificate is produced, we'll be fine. Until then, we will exercise our first amendment right of free speech, and ask to see a birth certificate, and question authority. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it shouldn't be in a chicken house. - Phil Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:11:17 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2181 "The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." "The document which has been provided is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department." (FactCheck.org) If it's good enough for the State Department, it's good enough for me. It would take a conspiracy of unimaginable magnitude (as well as unlikelihood) over the past several decades for all the evidence ("short-form" birth certificate and contemporary newspaper birth announcements) to be false. It just isn't true. We are lucky enough to live in a country where the issues of the day which affect our lives are open to debate. We have plenty of issues at this time: economic, health, environmental... let's put our attention where it matters. Each of us is entitled to be heard, and to let others be heard. Debate the issues. - Down to Earth Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:54:13 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2179 'Just ask Vitter'. Just had to didn't you. It's sad. - justwandering Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:58:18 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2178 Walter, give this story a rest. If there is something to it, by the time we find out, Obama will be out of office. An aside: McCain (born in the Panama Canal Zone) and Goldwater (born in Indian Territory-now Arizona) both were questioned on this issue. Of course they didn't win. As to Farrow's comment: "black" liberal, it's probably more black "liberal." Liberal being the buzz word. - Last Call Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:42:47 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2175 You "birthers" have an uncanny ability to believe whatever you want to believe. You also lack critical thinking skills. Maybe Obama doesn't want to release his "long form" birth certificate just to tick all of you off . . . after all, he has no obligation in law to release such a birth cerficate. And even if he did release the certificate, you "birthers" would probably find some other conspiracy theory on which to latch yourselves. When you get right down to it, the real issue for you, in my opinion, is that there's a black liberal in the White House -- key word "black" . . . and you can't stand it. - Farrow Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:14:45 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2174 Obama's hidden records and natural born citizenship are legitimate issues. It's no surprise that Hillary Clinton just went to Kenya to reinforce the cover-up. I still want answers. Obummer, put up or get out!!!! All he has to do is make the following official public statement, "I Barack Obama authorize the State of Hawaii to release and make public all of my records on file." That's it. Issue over. But he won't because he's a fraud!! Obama knows that millions of citizens want to see it yet he continues to hide it. What/why is he hiding? and most disturbingly, why don't BHO's supporters want to know the whole truth, especially since there's a reward of $100,000 for proof that Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the United States. OBAMA, STOP HIDING. SHOW US THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND YOUR OTHER RECORDS!!!!! - Captain Steve Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:19:27 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2173 Walter: Did John Kerry publicly tell Democrat supporters to stop claiming that Bush Neo-Cons "stole" the 2000 Election from Al Gore? During the campaign last year, did Barack Obama go on tour telling Democrats to stop speculating that Sarah Palin's down-syndrome son was really Bristol's first child? No they didn't. So why should Congressman Boustany, who has already stated publicly on KPEL that he believes President Obama is a real American citizen, say any more on the subject just to appease your irrelevant ego? - Et Tu Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:04:54 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2172 Mr. Pierce, you give me the "willies." Put a cork in it. - cutouttheBS Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:54:55 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/4768#comment-2170 The simple answer is that the long form birth certificate has information that will confirm the ineligibility of Obama. There is no common sense or logical reason for it not to be released. You yanks are so apathetic - Aussie Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:36:40 +0100