Comments for RE: What in tar nation? at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 21 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Sat, 18 May 2013 16:38:45 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7360 As a former smoker, I'd like to apologize to all the non-smokers for whom I unwittingly caused a miserable evening, after which they had to go home and wash their stinky clothes and hair because of my disgusting habit. Not to mention causing unbearable sinus problems for others. As a non-smoker, I applaud the effort to encourage smokers to be more considerate to others, but didn't notice the effect. Where was the signage at the festival encouraging smokers to abstain or move away from crowds? - charlette Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:24:22 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7358 Aw, the hell with it. let the Pinky's have their way, and when the day arrives that they are ordered to snuff their Mother and Father lifes, because they are a burden to this great society, or to give their child to the state, so that the childs organs may be removed and transplanted to a hierachy's family child. in need of a heart, or kidney, then all the pink candy-asses will wonder just how in the hell everyone became enslaved and lost their freedom. There have been many people who have never smoked, never been around second-hand smoke, and in many cases there have been many children never exposed to cigarette smoke, who have been diagnosed with different cancer's, yet they were never exposed to any cigarette smoke, certainly not first hand, or even second hand... You un-informed, in the dark mushrooms, need to vist a cancer treatment clinic and let a learned physician explain the many known causes of cancer, and the fact that there are as many unknown causes which cause cancer, as there are known causes ! Have the trained physician explain just who may be susceptible to someday come down with some type of cancer........Today in our world there are thousands of cancerous causing molecules air-borne in the air we breath, ask any medical cancer research laboratory. While you are asking, ask why the most prevalent fatal disease known to man, is still without any treament other than treatments that will kill you before the cancer will kill you.......... Also ask, how much money is paidout by insurance companies for the medical treatment of cancer patients whose immune system cannot tolerate the damaging chemotherapy the cancer patient must endure all for nought ! For every existing disease, there has been found a cure.... For the biggest money generating diseases for the medical profession ever,"AIDS and CANCER, no known cure only an immune killer ! - EXISTENTIALIST HOMME Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:54:12 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7337 What about the Cato Institute's detailed description of how the EPA intentionally and willfully altered the data, and omitted studies, in such a way as to make it seem like there is a link between cancer and second-hand smoke? Say what you want about the judge, looks to me like he weighed the evidence in the case. So just to be clear. You're in favor of smoking bans, and the "tobacco road" judge is crooked. And you believe second-hand smoke causes cancer. And to support your position, you'd point to the EPA's ruling that ETS is a carcinogen, even though it is documented fact that the EPA lied and distorted the scientific data to support its over-zealous regulatory agenda. Read the article in the link very closely about what the EPA did to come up with that ruling. - ragin_cajun Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:54:59 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7333 Yeah, it's worth noting. That's my position--the health risks associated with second hand smoke are an urban myth. Smoking bans are about progressive-minded statists who relish controlling their neighbors. It's also worth noting that left-wing tyrranies in Europe also were obsessed with smoking bans and health foods. Many articles about it. Wikipedia credits Nazi Germany with the first modern smoking ban. - ragin_cajun Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:41:09 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7332 It's worth noting, ragin_cajun, that scientists from a federal agency ruled ETS a carcinogen and a federal judge from Tobacco Road begged to differ. Just a thought ... - Walter Pierce, Managing Editor Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:18:42 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7331 http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5811 - ragin_cajun Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:38:57 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7298 K Ardoin ! Thank God for blue collar workers, EH ? I would hate to depend on a white collar worker or a lucky sperm club member to wire my house, or clear my sewer pipe, or repair my vehicle, and last but not least, " The man who through an obligation to feed his family hauls my thrash away........... I am one of the lucky ones who through years of hard work, i can buy the idiot who posted the comment about blue-collar workers, for thr price of diamonds and sell the idiot for the price of skunk dung. I'll never forget where i came from, and never, will i think i'm better than any working stiff. I still wear my hard hat, proudly ! AMEN BROTHER ! - EXISTENTIALIST HOMME Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:16:05 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7289 COUNTRY COME TO TOWN ,ONLY BLUE COLLAR PEOPLE SMOKE,WOW SOUNDS A LITTLE HIGH BROW ELITISM GOING ON CAN WE ALL ENJOY THE FESTIVAL AND JUST GET ALONG SMOKER NON SMOKER RICH OR POOR WE ALL ENJOY AND HOPEFULLY SUPPORT THE FEST AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE - K ARDOIN Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:22:29 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7283 Mr. L Trahan, personally i detest smoking, after smoking for 50 years and still here because my friends and a loved one took the time to show their concern for my health, "I QUIT" . Now we could follow the lead of those teen-age immature school children who had a separate prom because they wanted to have a prom queen of their race..........How cool was that, eh ? WE ARE INHALING MORE CONTAMINATS DETRIMENTAL TO OUR HEALTH, WHICH ARE BEING REALEASED INTO OUR AIR-SPACE EACH DAY, BY THE GIANT REFINERYS AND CHEMICAL PLANTS THAN ALL THE CIGARETTES SMOKED IN 10 YEARS IN THE WORLD, WAKE UP PILGRIMS............. - NOTHHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:04:33 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7266 Just for that Walter, I am taking up smoking. - G-man Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:07:59 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7259 Okay I can respect a smoker's right to smoke. But I don't think the average smoker really understands how a non-smoker's lungs can be very sensitive. As a non-smoker my lungs seize up every time someone lights up around me. It may be annoying to walk away from other's to light up but it's VERY annoying not to be able to breathe for a few minutes. I have to fight for every breath before my lungs finally adjust to the smoke and even still it's painful to breathe. If I were a smoker I would try to be more considerate. While I would prefer a mostly smoke-free festival, I would also be supportive of smoker's areas with events just for smokers. I think there can be compromise - L. Trahan Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:58:49 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7254 Yup, it takes a very inconsiderate person to smoke-fill an open area, where folks are enjoying a festival, without any regard at all for the people, who don't wish to die from second-hand smoke ! """ I don't smoke " but i truly believe that, if enough people of voting age, bitch loud enough, the powers that be, will squeeze through that minute opening and enact a law to prohibit those that smoke to cease smoking in any city, state, or federally sponsored outdoor event,,,,,,,,FOR THOSE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO REALIZE, JUST HOW ASININE THEIR WISH IS, when that day arrives when you are without any freedoms at all, it will be too late to regret that you were the asinine idiots who paved the way towards the enslavement of all mankind........from within, our rights are being taken away, the powers that be are strenghtening themselves, for that day, and you stupid idiots are just begging to have your rights taken away," it will begin with you pushing for the rights of others to be taken away, and someday ""YOU, YOURSELF will awake and realize " YOU were the reason and the cause of it all.. " POWER BEGETS POWER, complete power can only be acquired through the domination and enslavement of " YOU, I AND OUR BRETHEN ! " THE HELL WITH GOD SAVE THE KING, GOD SAVE US ALL ! - EXISTENTIALIST HOMME Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:56:01 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7253 It will be interesting to see if people won't smoke. I think its comical in a way to have liquor available to people at the festival and then let them get in their vehicles to drive and hope they won't hit a love one on the way home. Everyone focuses on tobacco products and not on alcohol. - realistic girl Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:43:43 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7252 I think a smoke-free festival is great. Why should I have to breathe in your second hand smoke. I have bad allergies and have to increase the amount of medicine I take when around second hand smoke. And what about those who have asthma. Why can't they enjoy the Festival just as you would. I use to smoke and I would not smoke in a public place where it would bother others. Great idea to have a smoke-free festival. - Rene' S Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:36:15 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7238 How about a no non-smokers area up near the stage. Non-smokers aren't allowed. And I don't buy that 700 people dying from second hand smoke. Sounds like a "statistic" to me. So, the 56,000 who die nationally each year in auto related mishaps, are they breathing car exhaust fumes? - Phil Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:14:30 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7236 What a bunch of selfish comments! No one will force you to not smoke...it's merely a suggestion! However, it IS pretty damn amazing at how selfish and inconsiderate so many smokers can be. face it....it's not the 1960s - most people DO NOT SMOKE anymore! Is it simply all about YOU to disregard those standing next to you? Screw all this limitation of freedom crap - will you die if you refrain for a few minutes until you're not stuck around others? Just because you CAN does not necessarily mean that you SHOULD. Grow up, get a grip and consider a little consideration towards others who have either dropped or never taken up your bad habit. - Cecil Doyle Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:46:04 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7232 hey! let's have two festivals. one for smokers and one for non smokers. let's extend this one for drinkers and one for non drinkers. we could go on forever. home of the free, brave, and segregated population. - g lemaire Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:32:28 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7231 o.k. let's get rid of the food. if your a veggie, isn't it offesive. drinking, if your a non drinker, isn't it offesive. i do not smoke in my friends home or car if they don't smoke. hell, i don't smoke in my own home. this is outdoors. give me a break. so let's just go stand around and tell people not to do anything we don't like. if someone is wearing something i don't like make them go home. were does this end. - smoker Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:10:12 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7230 How bout a cattle call for all those opposed to smokers at this or any festival. Corral them in a fenced in area where their air will be smoke free. Those that can cope with and smoke enjoy the outdoor festival and all the air you can breathe. - K Airhart Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:57:42 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6080-re-what-in-tar-nation#comment-7229 incense? that was weak - jared s Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:38:32 +0100