Comments for RE: Bad Karma at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 21 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Sat, 18 May 2013 21:46:51 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10426 written by Walter Pierce "I'm referring to the vast majority of downtown barhoppers of every race, most of whom, I'd be willing to wager, couldn't find Afghanistan on a map" ---------------- Ah, is it close to Duson? - Krusty Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:39:35 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10397 IF THEY CLOSE KARMA IS JUST ATTRACT THE CROWD TO ANOTHER CLUB DOWNTOWN!!! THEY JUST DONT WANT THE BLACKS DOWN TOWNJUST LIKE IN THE ARTICLE WHEN IT WAS AWHIE CLUB THERE WAS NOT ANY PROBLEMS!!! FIGHTS WHERE BREAKING OUT EVERY NIGHT!! - SHANTELLEE Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:31:07 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10384 "Karma is the biggest nightclub in Lafayette, chockablock Thursday and Saturday nights with meatheads and airheads — 20-somethings entangled by an inelegant contrivance of vanity, apathy and ignorance. And at 2 a.m. when about 1,500 people are streaming out of Karma, the immediate area around the club can get tense. This is not exclusive to Karma. But the crowd there is huge, and if you’re drunk and not about to get laid, your arms are more likely to end in fists." This is the most beautiful/accurate paragraph I've read today. Just wanted to point that out. - LookSomeThings Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:30:50 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10362 I have quit going to Wal-Mart, too. For some of the same reasons. I also won't set foot in New Orleans, either. - ragin_cajun Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:11:52 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10360 Walter-- "most of whom, I'd be willing to wager, couldn't find Afghanistan on a map or identify who represents them in Congress. " uhhh....that would be WAY more than 50% of the people in this country. Anyplace, any age, any race....VERY few people in this country could do both of those if asked. James Anderson-- "Have any of you owned or own a private business of any kind?" Yes, I currently own and operate my own private business. I am determined, my product is superior and less expensive, and I'm not at all sure that will be enough to make my business successful. - ragin_cajun Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:10:27 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10344 written by James Anderson , September 09, 2010 BMILLER, Have you stopped going to Walmart and Burger King also??? Yes! I have as a matter of fact! - bmiller2100 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:56:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10342 just wondering, I'm referring to the vast majority of downtown barhoppers of every race, most of whom, I'd be willing to wager, couldn't find Afghanistan on a map or identify who represents them in Congress. My snobbery is inclusive. - Walter Pierce Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:34:14 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10341 Walter, When you refer to the "lowest common denominator" are you referring to a)"meatheads and airheads — 20-somethings entangled by an inelegant contrivance of vanity, apathy and ignorance." Which on its surface seemed like an extremely broad generalization of an entire demographic group. b)the black patrons who you refer to as: "Karma’s meat- and airheads [who]are now overwhelmingly black, drawn to the club by hip-hop-themed nights." Which if I am reading correctly, is a clarification of the extremely broad generalization in option a) to a more specific group. c) any patron that is drawn to hip-hop music - who you seem to equate with "the ruffians who loiter outside the club, catcalling women and challenging men with their stares." or d) all of the above? A clarification of this point would be most helpful in interpreting the perspective and values that contribute to the opinions expressed in your editorial. - just wondering Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:24:28 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10338 BMILLER, Have you stopped going to Walmart and Burger King also??? - James Anderson Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:24:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10336 Have any of you owned or own a private business of any kind? - James Anderson Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:08:25 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10332 It is what it is...I stopped going downtown because of the "thug" crowd...black or white...I've been in fights with black guys AND white guys who were disrespectful...The problem is that there is no respect given when it comes to "thugs". I'll show any reader here what a "thug" is if you want to walk with me downtown on a night when Karma/Shakers is busy. This type of person ruins the FUN for everyone down there. I think that there is a place on the strip for these guys or on the other side of Simcoe! Why should I have to listen to some punk gawk at my girlfriend/date in a disrespecting manner. That's how the fight starts...I'm not going to tolerate it. I shouldn't have to. I'm 43 yrs. old (I sat next to you in French class in Ms. Greig's class, Walter lol) and downtown should be for a crowd of 25 plus so all can enjoy and leave the kids on the strip or other college hangouts... - bmiller2100 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:31:00 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10331 It's funny these places encourage thugs by attracting them to a HIPHOP night that plays music that portrays thug mentality and criminal activity as a glorified benefit of being "Ghetto" and yet the same wanna be thugs cry when they get exactly what they go looking for? Surely you jest! Karma is building a brand new club down Johnston street AWAY from downtown to play country music and is using the money from the "black" thug nights to fund it. I think that's the funniest thing of all in this situation.... - Dylan McKay Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:54:45 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10316 Touché, Odessa! - Walter Pierce Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:15:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10315 "The Orwellian-sounding Office of Alcohol and Noise Control" Nah, doesn't sound that Orwellian. Perhaps the Office of Refreshments and Non-visible Vibrations? - Odessa Goodwin Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:13:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10312 That is correct, ragin. To WhatSayYou: I confess to being overly judgmental of the Karma patrons. Last week was compressed due to the Labor Day holiday and I was probably in a bit of a foul humor when I wrote the column. Unfortunately, it doesn't change the fact that many if not most of the bars downtown attract a lowest common denominator, bless their hearts. - Walter Pierce Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:26:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10311 Walter-- "sounds like the author is a little judgmental on the patrons of this establishment" Correct me if I'm wrong here, but this "Walter Pierce Re:" is like an Op Ed in a traditional newspaper. This is pure opinion from Walter Pierce. Is that correct? The actual News section has an article on this, and it is a little less opinion, more factual, more even-handed. If you want facts, go read about this in the "News" section. If you want Walter's opinion ABOUT the news, go read "Walter Pierce Re:" Is that about it? - ragin_cajun Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:04:31 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10310 "Karma is the biggest nightclub in Lafayette, chockablock Thursday and Saturday nights with meatheads and airheads" sounds like the author is a little judgmental on the patrons of this establishment. The first half of the article basically dogs the customers so I guess we know whose side he is on. I thought the IND prided itself on producing the facts in a story. - WhatSayYou? Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:23:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10308 "Sources tell us the owners of the bars adjacent to and across the street from Karma would love to see the place shuttered because of the patrons it attracts, specifically the ruffians who loiter outside the club, catcalling women and challenging men with their stares." And this is a problem why? One business' patrons scaring off another's is the problem here, not some nefarious plan to do something about it. So the surrounding places get more business - who cares? Better for them, but more importantly better for public safety. No one has a right to make a gold mine off of thousands of belligerent kids while wrecking for everyone else what could be a good downtown night scene. We don't need some kind of misplaced notion of "fair play" here - what we need is a downtown that's safe and pleasant for all its users. - Anonymous Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:49:00 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10306 Ok so shut all the bars down, becuase all the bars play "Hip Hop" It is a race thing Karma and Shakers are the only places that cater to the "Black" crowd. Another thing please dont let Jason Robino lie to you and say he is not having trouble. He pays the endevor plus the Levy so hes paying double to keep the cops away. Sounds like good ole Louisiana politics to me pay to "pay to stay open" - Cajun 77 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:29:47 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/6885-re-bad-karma#comment-10298 I'm really tired of race coming up every time a law is enforced. And I am coming around to the LPD's side on all this. BUT!!!! On the other hand, Chief Craft openly said the problem downtown is "hip-hop" venues late last year. "I don’t want to blame it, the total thing on venue, but you talk to those bar owners and they’ll tell you about the bars who change their venue to hip-hop. It attracts a thug-type mentality for some of the people going down there. The bar owners know and the police know it." Chief Craft December 10, 2009 http://theind.com/component/content/article/65/5332 - ragin_cajun Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:27:15 +0100