Comments for Controversial downtown development plans modified at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 17 out of 17 comments http://www.theind.com Mon, 20 May 2013 16:27:13 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10414 This is the same reason the local little Druglords swarm all over the Upper Lafayette area, they are not disturbed,for every market there has to be seller and the need is throughout Lafayette and the well-to-do's market is nicely situated far from the well-to-do's home but a short jaunt across town to obtain their needs as in this asinine project to corral the drug sellers, to keep them at a distance away from the sound barrier wall but near enough to allow for available goods and encourage private enterprise. Our politicians are very on top of it all, always devising projects to make a pie available for sharing for their cohort-crony, fund raisers. The Green Man, the Unleveled Surveyor, and the lackey wanna be " President, councilman. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:40:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10394 Did anyone check the school district? Isn't that in a failing district? - school district Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:02:47 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10393 Observer, just read the articles and not the comments. Then your perfect world will never change! I know that if you stop reading online the world would end. And we don't want that do we? Like they say IN THE LAND OF THE NORTH (where the streets don't flood), if you disagree take your marbles and GO HOME!! - The Original Northsidian Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:18:28 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10391 Blah Blah Blah ranh ranh ranh ranh. Is that all the motivated readers of this blog have to say. God help me. You people would berate George Washington for accepting the surrender of Cornwallis. Nothing's ever good enough. Makes me want to stop reading this paper online just to avoid all the nattering negativists. - Unempirical Observer Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:59:07 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10386 written by Follow the Money , September 09, 2010 How much are the developer fees and who's sharing the fees? Developer's fees: About $5 Million! Developer's Investment: About $5,000!! HUD makes the incentive very high for these projects because "mixed use" is just a new name for projects and after they get started, they ultimately become all low income. HUD also allows for the developer to continue making money over time and might make money off of the eventual sale but we don't know if that is the case here. But it would be allowed (indeed, maybe highly recommended) under HUD guidelines. (this can all be verified online) Cost to the City: we'll see what we have to "waive" to get the extra points to be the "winning" applicant. Non profits are tax exempt. So, does the 1% ownership now by AOC make it fully tax exempt? Wonder if Conrad knows? How many streets and adjudicated properties will the City turn over to the developer? And, what is the ultimate cost to the city of concentrating poverty on one side of town and so close to the downtown area? I believe this mayor would cheerfully abuse property owners rights and seize property to turn it over to developers. Play close attention UPPER LAFAYETTE!! Growing the poverty industry in one section of town is actually against HUD guidelines; not to mention discrimination. - realitychecks Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:28:33 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10381 "There has been a need for additional housing in the Downtown area for many years!" Please qualify this "need." - LookSomeThings Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:04:59 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10378 Think, Housing Authority. Yes, we need to waste more taxpayer dollars. - Kris Williams Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:35:33 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10375 "There has been a need for additional housing in the Downtown area for many years!" So what. State subsidized real estate ventures are the answer? There is plenty of housing all over town. Plenty of rental property. For government to spend borrowed money it doesn't have is corrupt. - ragin_cajun Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:46:33 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10374 Follow the Money!! - The Original Northsidian Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:23:27 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10372 Like all endorsements for this project, the developer simply says "whatever" and no one checks the facts, like what will this cost the city? For instance, in the LA plan for HUD projects, "points" are given for certain government concessions that go along with the endorsement; little things like the City donating land, waiving permit fees, waiving water and sewer fees, even waiving property taxes!! Just wait until Joey presents the bill for this one!! Sponsorship by the "nonprofit" means it pays no taxes, but looky below at the Palates logo. That's tradmarked in an individual name, isn't it? It's all in the marketing..... Once filled with PERMANENT SPECIAL NEEDS PEOPLE, there will be no vacancies, as these people don't ever move, hence the term "sustainable" housing. - realitychecks Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:14:23 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10363 How much are the developer fees and who's sharing the fees? - Follow the Money Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:37:24 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10359 " Snickering, cocking back in chairs, whispering amongst each other, reacting with sarcasm to the very constituents they serve." Yeah, I've picked up on their attitude, too. Never quite able to put my finger on why it looked that way until now. This is exactly what it is. - ragin_cajun Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:02:03 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10354 There has been a need for additional housing in the Downtown area for many years! - pulsarlake Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:32:04 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10349 Let's keep in mind that the council ENDORSED this without seeing the plans. None. Oh, maybe Shelvin did because we all know he's in AOCs back pocket, but the rest of em? Haven't seen the presentation, just like the community that it affects hasn't seen the new version of the development/presentation. Also, the way Gachassin spun it to the council was: After listening to the community's concerns, we scaled back, made it more congruent to the local aesthetic and did it all because of community voices being heard. Mhhmmmm. Of course it wasn't because of the lack of funding, (un)feasibility or the other big issue that there are owners that refuse to sell in his site-plan. His company really has a heart, don't you see? Our council is a joke. They might as well have a pitcher of beer and cigars up there during the meetings. Snickering, cocking back in chairs, whispering amongst each other, reacting with sarcasm to the very constituents they serve. Disrespectful. Maddening. Unprofessional. - Ayeyayaye Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:21:45 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10347 HUD funding determines who gets to live there. All HUD programs come with strings attached. Louisiana has put even more severe restrictions like must give preference to Katrina evacuees. Landrieu wants to scatter her 9th ward all over Louisiana and the La restrictions on community block grants is just the vehicle to do it. Then, when AOC takes over, it will be all "sustainable" housing for it's clients, fresh out of rehab! People with mental illness and drug problems are people with "special needs"; just like their building permit requests! Some, might, incidentally happen to have children...... - realitychecks Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:45:41 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10340 My councilman voted for this? I wanna hear why. Because it sucks. :) - ragin_cajun Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:10:15 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/6902-c-p-council-endorses-downtown-joie-de-vivre-development#comment-10335 Sounds better but it still sucks. - Odessa Goodwin Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:56:53 +0100