Comments for UL adding cinematic major at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 11 out of 11 comments http://www.theind.com Mon, 20 May 2013 02:32:43 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-12122 I sorta want to agree with RC on this one...but I would say that independent film does play a major role in the thoughts of a society and nation as do all artistic movements. Philosophy in fact plays a key role in setting the table for the discourse of the coffee table conversation that goes on amongst our thinkers, our artists, our inventors, our public servants, and hopefully, even our engineers, biologists and other theorists. All education can be of value and all students should have a good background in a well rounded education. With sadness, I can say that we do not have this luxury. Education is far too tailored, too narrowed, and goal-oriented, especially for the younger children. We've seen the shortcomings of this with test-score centric schooling that is going on this decade. We are seeing where this is taking us in higher ed. We citizens are increasingly, just the interchangeable cogs in a great machinery of money-making for others. Is that the measure of our liberty? Is that the sum total of self-determination? I don't think it should be. Providing us training for work without great thoughts does not make a great society. It makes us the evil empire we once and still so despise. - Unempirical Observer Fri, 05 Nov 2010 00:08:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-12014 I did not say that more money will improve education. The argument is framed as Philosophy vs. Film. Budget cuts are doing away with the Philosophy Dept. In my little old opinion, there should be enough money to support the Philosophy Dept.. By not providing Philosophy, devalues the breadth of education. UL has chosen Film, as it may attract more students and get more financial support from the private sector than does Philosophy. It is a decision based on money and thus, a choice on the type of knowledge it wishes to impart as education. I think it is unfortunate, pun intended. Education is top heavy with Administration as is State Governement, in my opinion. As far as the value quality of education, that depends on the quality of the teachers, the quality of students, the quality of the material being presented, and the quality of the relationship. Money is a component but not a guarantee of outcome. - StreetBookSmart Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:05:40 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-12009 written by StreetBookSmart 1. real problem, which is not enough money going to education to support both. 2. Legalize and tax marijuana, with those funds dedicated solely to education, unlike what happened with the gambling revenues. ----------------- 1. More money will not improve education; a better student attitude will. 2. No problem with legalized marijuana. Nevertheless, I would require drug testing for all licenses, driver and anything else. - Limited Liability Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:01:25 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-12008 To pit the "Philosophy" against other "Practical" subjects deflects the focus from the real problem, which is not enough money going to education to support both. Legalize and tax marijuana, with those funds dedicated solely to education, unlike what happened with the gambling revenues. Couple that with rededicating all the cigarette & liqour taxes, and we'll have the best education that sins can buy. We'll philosophize about the benefits and pitfalls, while creating documentary and dramatic films about the yin and yang of our HIGHly educated state, as we slowly sink into the Gulf of Enlightenment. - StreetBookSmart Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:25:51 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-12004 written by really? Uh, yea and the only person in town to get a job because of a philosophy major would be the person teaching philosophy at the university. ------------------- Philosophy can open you to critical thinking. So, it is obviously something you need to know. - James Melancon Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:28:00 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-11998 written by really? 1. "get a job because of a philosophy major would be the person teaching philosophy at the university." 2. "When a production company brings a movie to town, like Secretariat, they spend millions of dollars here. That money is paid to local businesses and stays here. But production companies need skilled labor, or they will not keep coming." ----------------------- As to 1. Most BA's in Philosophy go to other careers such as law, journalism, and even movie making. I know of a PhD geologist with an BA in Philosopy. As to 2. Spend Millions? I doubt is was millions, nevertheless, most of the jobs are low paying and non-recurring. What do we do while waiting for the next film to be made here? - Limited Liability Mon, 01 Nov 2010 08:11:51 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-11974 "complete lack of understanding of the difference between "training" and "education." Chickens can be trained, only people can be educated. " SNAP! So, are you still cracking up? Or do you think we should just turn ULL into a trade school? - ragin_cajun Sat, 30 Oct 2010 21:43:23 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-11973 There is a sucker born every day and if you can keep em uneducated you can trade the farm for an un disclosded sum under the table and an unrealistic sum in the public and you yourself live richly everafter, "Now would'nt that make a good happy ending movie, and we have all the players hetre locally, Lafayette is so rich in psdeudo-fantasy people. And that is why a Movie Image Arts Degreee, makes all the sense in the world, then maybe the " scam of the HORSE fARM SALE WOULD SUCCEED, THE WAY TO GET AWAY WITH A SCAM, IS TO KEEP EVERYONE IN THE DARK, AND PREY ON THE IGNORANT. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:16:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-11972 Yet another example of the complete lack of understanding of the difference between "training" and "education." Chickens can be trained, only people can be educated. The film industry is a "flavor of the week" fascination for Lafayette. It's a lot of fun to go to Cannes at the taxpayer's expense, and much easier than tackling the tough issues. The fact is that the film industry will go anyplace that is willing to give them enough money incentives. They aren't facinated with Lafayette for any other reason. Sorry that UL has bought into this short term foolishness at the expense of traditional programs. - cochon coussan Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:45:15 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-11960 Uh, yea and the only person in town to get a job because of a philosophy major would be the person teaching philosophy at the university. When a production company brings a movie to town, like Secretariat, they spend millions of dollars here. That money is paid to local businesses and stays here. But production companies need skilled labor, or they will not keep coming. I dunno about you, but I'd rather see our graduates making money making movies than starving in the gutter trying to figure out why they can't get a job with their shiny new philosophy degree. You really crack me up RC. - really? Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:53:24 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/7207-ul-adding-cinematic-major#comment-11943 UL has shut down its philosophy major, but is adding a " Moving Image Arts" degree. Philosophy determines the fate of men and nations. Movies don't. If UL were a vocational school, this'd be great. But it's not, it's a university. This is another example of the complete decay of the greatest nation the world has ever seen. How far we've fallen..... - ragin_cajun Fri, 29 Oct 2010 18:30:44 +0100