Comments for The Gainsayers at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 22 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Sat, 25 May 2013 06:15:53 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13547 “Cities across the nation are raising property taxes, largely citing rising pension and health care cost for their employees and retirees.” The Wall Street Journal December 24, 2010 - andymhebert Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:53:33 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13523 Northsidian Shotgun: I'm definitely not on the government 'teat.' I am not a government employee. I am a small business owner in Lafayette and I don't have any business with the government, either. I believe there is plenty of waste in government, and also plenty of laziness amongst government workers. I was just expressing my exasperation with many who make a point without providing actual evidence or legitimate sources that supports that point even if it is true. - Dudley E. LaBauve, III Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:38:56 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13473 Pardonnez Moi, But my main peeve is Politicians, " Who white-wash and glorify Politics and Thieving Politicians, especially the lazy career politicians. - northsidian shotgun Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:52:09 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13467 OH DUD DUD D` TORD, A purebred world champion hound could'nt tract where the dollars have gone after government has disbursed the tax money. - northsidian shotgun Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:58:51 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13466 Po Bet DUD DUD D` Tord, You got to be on the government teat, and got your personal slot at the LCNG, trough, Tenure, EH ? Did you not read my post, I repeat, you guys are such an unproductive sort and that validity is a hard base fact, and that is why our government needs 55 % more funds than any private venture to obtain the same production, for any slow learnt who would work at government wages, has no intention of working hard, government is like the "UNIONS, employing a bunch of do-nothings, who want to retire after working 1/4 of their natural lives, and let the folks with the long term jobs support their lazy ass, while they paint cabinets or go work for their wife's family business, and share the wife's inheiritance. You dunce, spoofing the ignorance that government looks back and would audit their wastefullness. Hah their cronys who filled the campaign chest must get their cush. - northsidian shotgun Mon, 20 Dec 2010 20:55:06 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13455 In order to have an informed opinion on this issue or any issue for that matter, one must do their homework. Study closely how government has been spending our tax dollars. Once an individual has tracked where the dollars have gone, then that individual can make an informed argument as to the validity of pay raises or not. Unfortunately, most folks don't do their freakin' homework, and sound like a bunch of want-to-be Politicians who talk out of their asses! - Dudley E. LaBauve, III Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:17:28 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13446 Written by just a nobody, Ga just say "t h e o n e, sitting in the office at present. By the way I'm turning another page on the 1st. I'm going back and startin again on page 1. - northsidian shotgun Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:56:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13440 Walter Pierce "bloviating in all their gaseous glory." ----------------------- Sorry Walter, I took a Beano that day. Nonetheless, Federal, and to a lesser extent state and local government employees do better than the average employee in the private sector. It not just the paycheck, it's the benefits. Just Google it and you find research supporting my statement. The benefits are a big reason most states (local too), have large unfunded obligations. Of course, living beyond our means is just the American way of life. - Eat Prey Kill Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:12:30 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13389 Employee, if more people would go to the meetings on Tueday nights we could never elect an incumbant for a second term. - Just a nobody Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:57:03 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13387 Some professions are paid more than others. Some professions don't have built in retirement programs. Most private sectors jobs aren't covered by insurance and retirement. Govt jobs don't have bad retirement programs at all. I've known people to leave the private sector to go to govt jobs just for the benefits. Govt jobs aren't bad at all. *** I deteste the racial references in earlier posts. They're not true & not necessary. *** But the truth of the matter is, the majority of the budget goes to payroll & I don't think Laf's economy will sustain a pay increase, or I haven't been convinced by "budget experts" this is a trend & can be maintained. OK, SO IF YOU CAN'T FIND AREAS OF NEED TO USE THAT $$$ YOU DIDN'T EXPECT, THEN GIVE A ONE TIME BONUS, 5% OR WHATEVER, BUT DON'T LOCK IN A PAY RAISE. Got your property tax statement yet? Mine went up AGAIN! So wait till 2011 to see how much more LCG will collect, & how many forclosures Laf will see. Lafayette is holding it own, but its rocky. Every sector is feeling a pinch. I know companies who are still furloughing. Not a time to lock in a pay raise. - BoFred Fri, 17 Dec 2010 06:49:22 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13381 From A Very Productive Employee to a LCG Employee, Then go and find a real job instead of working as a fireman, police-man, meter reader, for 20 years at minumum wage plus 25 %, go to work in the private sector until you are sity-five years of age instead of ya little peonski government position for twenty-five years, then retiring at 40 years of age and having to go paint houses, no-one is begrudging nyou the right to earn good wages, so go to work, get a real job, and buy your wife a mink stole or do like joey d, and be nice to your crony pals and they will buy the Mink Coat. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:00:20 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13374 If more people showed up Tuesday nights at City Hall and paid attention to the weekly council meetings, you would understand the positions of the workers. I can assure you, even after the "salary leveling" move, LCG employees in my area are still woefully underpaid in relation to private sector. - LCG Employee Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:11:46 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13352 I knew you'd show up, ragin. And that you'd have something negative to say. - Walter Pierce Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:39:22 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13348 Walter, The blogger, "Compassionate One" comments that they LCG employees) received a 17.5% raise "last year"...is this true? - Woody Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:28:51 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13346 Non Mais Walter, Ya think, I could float a loan with the nappy-haids for chrismas stockings. A short lesson in Govt. Employees : Everyone who works and carries all the burden for the babymamas should be paid according to their position and an equitable raise in keeping with the yearly increase of the cost of living, which is "NOT a 2% increase yearly, but to be realistic a 5%-7% increase yearly, the problem with Government compensation of its employees, is the practice of awarding pay increases based on tenurial positions, when a persons production and contribution to the overall picture never increases or elevates as in the private sector, whereas in the private sector a business must maintain a profitable margin to keep their doors open, an employee's worth is measured and his contribution towards the success and growth of the business is evaluated and compensation is earned not tenurially due, time at a position in the private sector does not mean pay increases and bonuses. We all know that government employees are just not a productive sort, a government employee works, 30 % less than a worker in the private sector, and his production would not earn his lazy-butt a pay increase but, more likely it would get him a pink slip. Ex: " 7 LPCG workers at a roadside project, 5 holding a shovel upright, and 2 White Hats supervising, and not a sweat-bead in sight. And, if you have a cousan what has 10 voting age kin, tell em to be heah Monday and bring his shovel. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:34:16 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13341 Walter -- Wow. You've now insulted about half of your most loyal customers! In PUBLIC! These "gainsayers" that "bloviate" are people that read your paper regularly, and comment because they care about all this. These "gainsayers" are the kind of people that this paper SAYS it's aiming at. "The Independent Weekly was launched in August of 2003 to provide a weekly forum for thinking, educated, involved readers who care deeply about Acadiana's future and help shape the community's vision for it. " That's what this paper says in the "About Us" section-you might have even wrote it. After reading this article today, that's obviously just "bloviating", too. Maybe you should have put a little more thought into this... - ragin_cajun Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:02:38 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13339 Can't fix stupid, Walter, so don't even try. Folks don't think that government wages ought to be on par with private sector wages because they don't understand that government is run by their neighbors, who face the same bills and obligations we all do. These goof-balls demand miniscule government (and gov't control) until a crisis occurs (like the gulf oil gusher) then complain when "big gov't" doesn't solve the problem fast enough. They don't blame the perpetrators because that would involve some level of critical thinking. Just as they would be caught thinking if they realized that gov't control over our own bodies constitutes gov't interference. The bottom line is that these yahoos really aren't against big gov't at all; they're just against a big-tent government that represents all people instead of their own narrow interests! - MollyBloom Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:49:29 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13331 Compassionate One, The security step was added because we've been getting robo-spammed by foreigners with a poor grasp of English urging everyone to "get the personal loan." You don't see these robo-spams because they're usually posted to very old archive stories. But the extra step has sharply reduced the number of comment notifications that come into my in-box. - Walter Pierce Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:14:23 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13321 I'm sure I summitted multiple entries...that security image is flakey. What's up with that? Was it really necessary? Are computer programs running the forums making security necessary? Aggrivating. - Compassionate One Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:23:44 +0100 http://www.theind.com/re/7465-the-gainsayers#comment-13318 Just the facts Walter. Last year, fiscal 2009, there was a whopping 17.5% pay increase! That was to bring government job pay into line with the private sector. That in itself doesn't make sense to me. NO media is reporting this fact. This is an additional 2% increase and is seen by many as irresponsible in the current economic climate. No emotion here, but sound logic. - Compassionate One Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:21:24 +0100