Comments for Smoke Signals at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 22 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Thu, 23 May 2013 22:29:38 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15923 My son plays music and I regret to say in places where it is not smoke free.I worry about this because he does take care of himself physically so inhaling smoke at bars is not good.There is more room outside than inside so go outside if you must smoke and let everyone breath better. - Jeffrey Duplechain Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:55:37 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15861 Lets look at this another way...Remember the days that people smoked next to your desk the whole time you worked? It was not a pleasant experience and you probably got sick alot. But those are days past and Now you have smoke free air in your workplace. Musicians and bartenders are All musicians and bartenders are asking for is that same right to work in a smoke free environment like we all .. BUT NOT THEM..enjoy. That's what the bill boards mean by Equal Air for All. YES they choose to work in bars BECAUSE that is their workplace... but everyone chooses their profession, we all certainly do according to our talents. The difference is we get smoke free air in our office and they do not. So lets look at it from their point of view ( a very smoky one) .. and think of the days when we had to endure smoke filled offices. Would we want to go back to that? - lets see this another way Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:17:22 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15853 " nor aids in a solution to any local problem " My comment proposes an excellent compromise that preserves the rights of ALL concerned. No one liked it. So then I proposed ANOTHER solution that stops the scourge of second hand smoke, increases city revenue through fines, creates a new enforcement division at LCG, AND does it without paying salaries and benefits to the new enforcement agents. No one likes that, either. So I'm with shotgun -- serious comments posted do NOT receive the attention they deserve. :) - ragin_cajun Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:36:18 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15849 N.S, pooyie dude, ya strong, I can smell ya from heah. - Atchafalaya Woodpecker Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:00:20 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15848 Walter , I stopped smoking 3 years ago and gained 20 lbs. I paid a seamstress to stressfree the waist line of all my pants, spread some coins around and helped the economy locally, did my share of recycling for this year, Saved a small rayon/poly field, and beat the "GoodWill, outta their growing individual profits, I know this will not put me at the forefront of Lafayette's," Man Of The Year. Walter, ya think possibly, I'll break into the top 100, EH ? "I'm just not convinced that any serious comment posted receives the attention it deserves, nor aids in a solution to any local problem brought upon us by man, therefore, my contribution is to inject a little spice into these problems which seem to always, arise locally, and impart a little flavor to the problem making it easier to ingest by all the population. " I could have been ah contender, I just did'nt train and get with the program. - Northsidian Shotgun Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:56:48 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15843 Its a Fng choice it does not fall under "RIGHT, no-one should have a fng say over ones, fng choice, rights are what we stand up and are willing to fight for, choices are personal, and no-one should subject their self to an affronty of ones space..... - Northsidian Shotgun Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:29:17 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15799 Walter - thanks for pointing out the actual point of this article which everyone seems to be missing. It's not about the patrons as much as it is about the employees. All employees should have the same protection under the law. We cherish our musicians, so let's stop making them sick. And dancing is just easier when you can breathe! - SmokingIsForLosers Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:31:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15798 I do only go to the "non smoking bars" that you speak of. Thanks for the suggestion but why should I be limited to by choices of bars because of the smoking? Go outside - question? Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:03:08 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15796 Walter, there may have been two things you missed. 1) I stated that I can see the concerns of those who don't want smoking in restuarants. I don't know if outright ban is the answer, but fine. Obviously, no. I don't want someone smoking in a daycare either near my children. 2) No, I would not be ok with someone spraying pesticides in a bar while I'm hanging out. Certainly, if I know a bar owner allows such a thing to be done, I won't go there in the first place. I'm sure just like smoke-free bars, there would be pesticide free bars opening up and advertised. Look, it is a bar. It's not a restuarant where there could be children under 18. Everyone who walks into that bar (in most Lafayette bars) is 18 or older, meaning old enough to vote, old enough to join the military, old enough to smoke, and as far as I'm concerned, old enough to drink. At most bars, you are expected to encounter drinking, smoking and cussing. Again, go play music or work at a smoke-free bar. Plenty of restuarants, which are now smoke-free, have live music. - RCajunrunner Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:19:40 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15789 Yes Walter, smoking is soooo satisfying, so is personal masturbation, and its quite easy to quit both, both are messy and nasty...get help and dump the crutches. Join the order of the Crucifible Sebastian Monks. - Northsidian Shotgun Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:55:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15785 Addendum to my last sentence: And because smoking is sooooo damn satisfying! - Walter Pierce Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:38:43 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15784 Some of this commentary speaks to cultural norms and ignores what seems to be well-established science regarding second-hand smoke. RCajunrunner and ragin, would y'all be OK with someone spraying an equal parts-per-million of pesticide in a bar you're hanging out in? What about something as innocuous as hair spray? How 'bout smoking in a day care center? Y'all OK with that? Children are resilient; they heal fast. Why is it that bars/casinos are the last stronghold for smokers aside from the dumpster out back? The tobacco and liquor lobby have anything to do with that? While it may be the "choice" of patrons to go to a particular bar, it's not nearly as much the choice of the people who work there, especially the musicians. We should condemn them to emphysema because of their poor "choices"? I'm a smoker by the way. Initially by choice but now by addiction, a lack of will power and cultural norms. - Walter Pierce Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:36:24 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15782 Wow. Are we that inept as consumers that we are incapable choosing a place to drink a beer where smoking is not allowed by choice of the bar owner? You've never heard of the Tap Room or Wine Loft? If you don't want to drink in a bar with smokers, then don't drink at those bars. FYI, I don't smoke. Never have, never will. But I don't need the nanny state to protect me from smoke-filled bars. Restuarants, I can start to see your point, but bars? Seriously? - RCajunrunner Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:42:36 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15780 "So I shall fund your health care needs merely because you suffer from a laryngeal or esophogeal cancer? Yes, because its the moral thing to do." You've GOT to be KIDDING me!! How do you figure YOU pay MY health care needs?! You don't, and you shouldn't. I have no right to anything that you have to provide for me. That's madness. And even if you DID fund my health care, that doesn't give you the right to dictate how I'll live. What I smoke. What I eat. Who I screw. How much I drink. How I think. Because you fund others' health care, do you think you should be able to tell them they can't be gay? Gay men have MUCH higher incidence of AIDS--that's a very expensive disease. Should you be able to tell people what food they can and can't eat? Perhaps we should ban sex out of wedlock--now THAT has a VERY high social cost. I've paid my entire working life for government services that OTHERS consume. Not once have I EVER wanted to tell others what they can and can't do. Difference in people. - ragin_cajun Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:14:23 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15765 Sorry, but I don't think an individual has the right to smoke any where but in their own home or on their property and even then with certain restrictions. Personal rights and perogatives takes a back seat to other concerns. So I shall fund your health care needs merely because you suffer from a laryngeal or esophogeal cancer? Yes, because its the moral thing to do. But we must also tax the hell out of tobacco products so that we can pay for that treatment. You may not enjoy you carcogenics at my expense. I went into a Jackson Mississippi breakfast shop a few years ago and almost chocked within 30 seconds of entering. The soke was sickening. I commented that here in lafayette we don't smoke in restuarants and the waitresssmailed and said " Tank Gawd theres a fewh places where we can still smoke ." then took a hit off that Marlboro. I quit 20 years ago, thank you Dr. Earnie Wong but I'm still hacking. Ban the damn things! I have a right to breathe. You do not have a right to smoke. - Stephen Clark Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:36:44 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15760 " But we have the individual freedom to choose, don't we? " No. We don't. This is what it's come to in our state, and in our country. We do not have the freedom to choose anymore. And many people in our state, our country, our city, would prefer NOT to have the freedom to choose. - ragin_cajun Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:07:07 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15747 Easy solution. If you don't want to inhale second hand smoke, don't work in or patronize bars that allow smoking inside. There are smoke-free bars in Lafayette. Have we really become that inept as a society that we have to ask government to protect us from cigarette smoke by banning it on bars, the one place you'd normally expect smoking? By the way, I don't smoke and really don't care to have my clothes and hair smell like it. But we have the individual freedom to choose, don't we? - RCajunrunner Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:44:23 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15742 " if the person next to you is blowing the smoke over their shoulder and into your face?" I see your point, now. You're right, this scourge of tobacco smoke MUST be eliminated NOW--at ALL COSTS. After that, we must quarantine anyone who has a cold, flu, or any other communicable disease. Second-hand spit is at least as serious, if not more. And it is much more common than second hand smoke, too. I think that there should be fines for anyone in a public place with any communicable disease or tobacco product. That would increase public revenue, increase public health, and ultimately spur economic development. We MUST do it now, FOR THE CHILDREN!!! In fact, I think that this new cadre of local enformcement agents for these public health ordinances should be drafted from the public at large. It is each citizen's obligation to serve the public, and we should have mandatory service on the new enforcement division for every citizen for 3 weeks a year. That way, the city would get this new revenue, public health benefit, and economic development, and it wouldn't COST A THING! - ragin_cajun Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:37:18 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15735 All the Louisiana business owners fighting this ban have to do is to see how smoke-free laws have affected other states who've already enacted bans. The bans have either no-effect or have conversely been a boon to bars and restaurants. It's pretty simple, the only think in the way of smoke-free laws are the tobacco industry and their foolish minion militant nicotine addicts. - Smoking Blows Thu, 17 Mar 2011 06:13:07 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/7948-smoke-signals#comment-15714 how good is this ventilation system if the person next to you is blowing the smoke over their shoulder and into your face? Its worthless. - question? Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:04:16 +0100