Comments for Nobel laureates: Repeal LSEA at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 23 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Tue, 21 May 2013 11:50:34 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-17425 Just because our science is not advanced to the point we can prove how God works, does the mean it is not real? Was the Earth flat until science could prove it was round? Are was it always round? - JUST A MOM Sat, 07 May 2011 08:43:19 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16986 Gaius is a pretty smart fellar. MollyBloom, you're not so shabby yourself. - Docy B Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:50:17 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16985 You crack me up, Gaius! - MollyBloom Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:43:53 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16983 Thanks, Docy B! The posting would have been even better, if I managed to spell the 'terminus technicus' "Pharaoh" correctly! Inexcusable blunder for one competently trained in the ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs. The term "pharaoh" means 'great house' in 15th B.C.E. Egyptian; it was a term of address for the king of Egypt. In the sacred hieroglyphs [English-Greek redundancy intentional], it is represented by two biliteral signs: pr [Eg. "House"] by 'house' + '3 [Eg. "great"] by a 'column.' In the standard transliteration, the second compound word, 'great' is "aA" in the Manuel de Codage uniliteral sign system, or the fourth and first letters of this sign system, " '3 " in the Gardiner system. Egyptian pr-aA [or, pr-'3], gives us Hebrew, פּרעה [par‛ôh], ancient (Septuagint) Greek, φαραώ [pharaō], Late Latin, pharaō, hence, modern English, Pharaoh. Now you know why my blunder was inexcusable! - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:02:51 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16977 Well said there, Gaius Cilnius Maecenas - Docy B Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:59:23 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16959 To Christian Man: Technically, one set of data points do not confirm testably one's hypothesis. Your observation is, however, truthful. We actually possess in the historical record of socio-economic analyses of the last 40 centuries, confirmation of your Clinton/Bush factoids. This need to redistribute the wealth from the powerful & rich to the poor, was observed by Pharoah Amenemhet I [Ammenemes, Egyptian, "Amun is in front"] in 1991 B.C.E. He was so successful at restoring the wealth and prosperity of Egypt after its disastrous First Intermediate Period (2150-2040 B.C.E.) that his Horus name, Nebty name, and Golden Horus name was "Wehemmesut" [Egptian, "Repeater (repeating) of Births"], the Divine Titulary meaning "Revolution"---a new order in the affairs of mankind, a Renaissance or Rebirth! If a Twelfth Dynasty Divine Pharoah knew these matters 40 centuries ago, you would think that the extreme Republican dolts who cling to their Ayn Rand [Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum (real name) 1905-1982 A.D.] and Milton Freeman [1912-2006] "Bibles" might observe the outer decay of polite and civil society, and ask themselves, "What's wrong?" But this is to demand too much thinking. After all, only three minutes of thought are required to adduce how we could and should be going forward. However, three minutes is an aweful long period of time for thinking! It is easier to continue our slide into cultural suicide---less thinking is involved! Your "Christian" message was appreciated by this writer, however! - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:39:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16958 Laf. Native, what do you have against Hungarians? - Rinkelstein Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:30:49 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16957 Laf. Native, what do you have against Hungarians? - Rinkelstein Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:29:50 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16955 written by NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN , April 23, 2011 Yes, like why some monkeys/apes did not evolve as is scientifically You sound just like that clown, Christine O'Donnell,the would be senator from Delaware. Call me and I'll send you some gold that I got from glen beck. - LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:44:04 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16954 Dear Molly, " There are still things that must be explained about evolution, true. Yes, like why some monkeys/apes did not evolve as is scientifically accepted that this is how humans came to be. Theoretically, like Swiss cheese, edible yet full of holes........ - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Sat, 23 Apr 2011 13:46:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16945 Good Job, Molly Bloom: Next time, break up your thought sequences into paragraphs, so your reader can follow your sequence of ideas. Those of us who know them already, can breeze read. The Internet medium is more disposed towards the movement of "twitter" constraint information packets, than well-reasoned arguments, such as yours. Once again, thank you for your considerable efforts to enlighten an obviously confused mind. Much enjoyed! - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:21:54 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16944 Let me add to your understanding about beliefs proven versus beliefs unproven. When Clinton was in office he raised taxes on the rich and jobs and the economy soared. When Bush took office, he cut taxes for the rich and the economy sinked like a stone. Now, these are two seperate and distinct theories. The republicans want you to believe that cutting taxes for the rich is good for the economy. You have verifiable testable data that that is not true. Cutting taxes on the rich does not help the economy. Now, if you vote for the republicans based on their theory, which proved false, then you must be a creationist, or a redneck. - Christan Man Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:11:57 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16943 MollyBloom, this is a very good explanation. Kudos! - Docy B Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:36:55 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16941 @Megan: I believe you have missed the point, Dear! No one is saying that you have to believe in evolution because belief has nothing to do with science. And that is the point. Creationism is about religion, which deals with beliefs. Hence, Creationism should be taught in religion classes, or possibly even certain philosophy classes. On the other hand, evolution is a scientific theory, which is based on testable and -- the really important part -- falsifiable information. Because beliefs cannot be legitimately falsified -- they are entirely subjective -- they do not belong in a science class. When scientists talk about something being falsifiable, they mean that they must run tests to see whether a question holds up under scrutiny in a particular way. If it does, then it has not been falsified; if it does not hold up, then it has been falsified. One seldom says that real science offers proof of anything, only that it has not been falsified yet. There are still things that must be explained about evolution, true. However, creationism is not testable in any way, shape or form. In fact, the whole idea of faith -- the basis of religion and creationism -- is the ability to believe without having to test it. (Remember poor Doubting Thomas?) To follow your analogy, just because we don't know yet where the cake mix, bowl and mixer came from yet, doesn't mean that the cake was baked by supernatural forces. It simply means that we haven't found the kitchen yet. Just as when we didn't know about germs because we couldn't see them: it didn't mean that supernatural forces were making people sick, it just meant that we couldn't see the germs because no one had invented a microscope yet. So, go ahead and believe and teach your children to believe. No one wants to prevent you from doing that. All we want is for religion to belong with religion and science to belong with science, as it should be and may not ever be in the great state of Louisiana! - MollyBloom Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:42:49 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16940 When did Adam and Eve walk the earth. Count those years and days up to the present. Then calculate the 4.5 billion people on earth and then see how many people a day would have to be born each day since Adam and Eve. Do the math. - Docy B Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:25:50 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16938 When the hungary are no longer hungary. When the homeless are no longer homeless. When the naked are clothed. When the world is at peace. When the sick are no longer sick. Indeed, when the rich share their riches. Then, and only then will I believe your theory of creationism is not junk theory. - LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:53:11 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16937 Megan, I can debate with you the science of science. I can show you dinosaurs from millions of years ago. I can even show you prehistoric humans from thousands of years ago. I can't show you Jesus rising from death and ascending to heaven. I can't show you an angel. I can't show you that my dead relatives in heaven. Nothing about religion can be shown in fact. - Christan Man Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:33:35 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16927 Just so everyone knows, Voodoo is a totally separate religion than Christianity. People mock what they fear and what they do not understand. I don't understand what the fear is with incorporating Creationism into the curriculum? It's only fair if Christians have to learn and pretend to believe in the Theory of Evolution. I do understand there are many devout Christians who fear science and balk at what it has proven and revealed to us. However, scientists fear Christians as well! My experience has taught me that many scientists and doctors alike are among the most close-minded of people. Just as close-minded as many Christians! Imagine the progress we could've made, if scientists had been willing to open their minds just a wee bit and said, 'OK, maybe'. Many well-respected scientists have gone down into the Hall of Shame because their research had revealed truths that contradicted what was know and was believed. Until science can prove to me that spontaneous generation of something from nothing is possible, then I will continue to believe in God and that He created all things in such a way that those of us who believe see His hand everywhere and those who do not see only what they wish to see. Here's an experiment! Try making a cake without any of the ingredient, including a bowl and a mixer. It seems that atheists love to picket and protest and call religion voodoo and superstition. Perhaps, it's a way to occupy time on earth so they don't have to think about the fact that, in their minds that all is for naught! Why climb the mountain if you know you'll never see the other side! I pray that someday science and religion can both become friends. - Megan Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:35:34 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16923 lol. r.c., I love you man. - Docy B Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:17:14 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8163-nobel-laureates-repeal-lsea#comment-16922 If the Editors and Readership may indulge a further contribution to this timely topic, I used the information supplied by the Managing Editor and our prescient, young Louisianian high-school scholar, Zack, on his web site referenced above to perform the following tabulations. Of the 42 Nobel Laureates who have signed Zack's petition: Seventeen (17) are Chemistry recipients; Seventeen (17) are Physics recipients; and Eight (8) are Physiology or Medicine Recipients. The span in years of their Awards of Medal, Diploma & Monetary Stipend is 1979 to 2009 C.E. [Common Era]. These years break down, thusly: Year 1979 [1] Year 1986 [1] Year 1987 [1] Year 1988 [1] Year 1989 [1] Year 1990 [2] Year 1992 [1] Year 1993 [3] Year 1995 [1] Year 1996 [5] Year 1997 [2] Year 1998 [1] Year 2000 [2] Year 2001 [1] Year 2002 [2] Year 2003 [3] Year 2004 [2] Year 2005 [4] Year 2006 [2] Year 2007 [1] Year 2008 [2] Year 2009 [3] Furthermore, the Prize in Chemistry and Physics is awarded by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. The Prize in Physiology or Medicine is awarded by the Karolinska Institute. For our young lady scientists in Louisiana, who match Zack in his ardor for 'scientific integrity', I am proud to assert that the only recipient of two awards was the extraordinary lady scientist, Madame Marie Curie. She received the Prize in Physics in 1903. She received the Prize in Chemistry in 1911. She, of course, made the world we live in possible technologically. - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:08:25 +0100