Comments for Anti-bullying bill, sans ‘gay’ language, fails in full House at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 46 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:28:30 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17996 I am proud to tell you that I back-handed the S_ _ _, out of every constipated bully that I personally witnessed bullying a weaker person. I am sure a higher power saw fit to place me in the vicinity of such inhumane acts by bullys against weaker persons, you can put that in your book. - Existentialist Homme Tue, 24 May 2011 01:50:02 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17956 Morrow-- Everything you mention about Facebook is speech, not "bullying" or "hazing". If kids are committing suicide or having mental break downs because of what others say, or post on the Internet, then bullying is not the problem. Pass all the laws you want, you won't solve the problem because you don't understand what the problem really has or who really has it. Let the screeds begin..., On a totally separate issue, kids should not be screwing around with cell phones all day, taking pictures on campus, etc. My kids' school doesn't allow that. Sounds to me like this is more about out-of-control public schools than bigotry. - ragin_cajun Sun, 22 May 2011 12:19:27 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17952 It seems like the further we go, the more backwards we become. Don't know how long I can stomach the injustices. - Mother T Sat, 21 May 2011 23:20:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17941 Anyone surprised by the defeat of the anti-bullying legislation hasn't been paying attention. LA isn't just going over a financial cliff we are heading for a moral precipice, too. And we are being led over the edge by some of the most disappointing Christians since Jerry Falwell and Pat Roberston. But there's good news for bigots: a new first-class hollerer and name-caller on the scale of Leander Perez and Willie Rainach, the miserably tormented Alan Seabaugh. (Hey Al, can I borrow your copy of the "gay, lesbian, transgender playbook?" I'll even unstick the pages for you). And congrats to Bobby Badon for standing up for kids and against bullies like Gene Mills. - rambeaux rawlings Sat, 21 May 2011 10:20:44 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17937 Every Gay boy / man should carry a shotgun, and blast the abuser to the promised land. I just may have a few dozen to sell you. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Sat, 21 May 2011 08:27:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17933 by Morrow "Facebook offers a forum" ----------------------------- We have heard this before. Once it was on blamed Rock n' Roll, TV, the movies, jazz, French postcards, reefer madness, bathtub gin, take your pick. I am certain the future will have something in it to blame. If we live pass 7/21/11 6pm. Was that eastern or central time? - Woolly Bully Fri, 20 May 2011 20:58:48 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17927 No kidding. If you haven't noticed kids today are not even close to kids of say 30 yrs ago. Facebook offers a forum to be as hateful as you could ever imagine, and a kid might not even know they're being bullied or harrassed online. Also, there are phones with cameras. Bad photos, or even photos taken in PE class dress out have been posted on FB and used as a form of torture. In the past, parents & teachers would have paddled a kid for torturing another student, but you can't do that now. If we can legislate "Yes ma'am" and "No sir" why is it so far fetched to try to legislate against the torture of a child? Can you imagine if someone would post a pic of you picking your nose or scratching your crotch or some other unthinking moment? The annonymity of the internet has allowed users to post the most vile comments; comments a kid cannot process like an adult. - Morrow Fri, 20 May 2011 16:23:06 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17925 "Because Facebook...." You're kidding me, right? - ragin_cajun Fri, 20 May 2011 15:33:47 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17917 written by ragin_cajun "who claim to have pure motives, but use rhetoric like this to attack, or should I say bully, their political opponents." --------------- Agreed. I found it interesting as being quoted "who thinks its perfectly alright for one student to harass, beat, abuse, and intimidate other students." So far, I have not found that posting. - James Melancon Fri, 20 May 2011 13:15:05 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17911 "Why do we need the State Legislature to pass a law for teachers and principals to ensure a safe learning environment? We never did before." Because Facebook did not exist when you were a kid. - noname123 Fri, 20 May 2011 12:39:31 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17907 " we need to be able to ensure safety and control for the learning to happen. " Finally, a reasonable statement. I agree with that. However, when I was in school, students were not ALLOWED to speak that way. Not saying they didn't, but it was not allowed. Students were expected to sit down, shut up, and pay attention in class. And that's usually what happened, too. It was not mandated by law. Why do we need the State Legislature to pass a law for teachers and principals to ensure a safe learning environment? We never did before. - ragin_cajun Fri, 20 May 2011 11:36:49 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17903 I think the Freedom of Speech argument is a false one. This is about schools, places we MANDATE kids go. Also, these are kids. If you are an adult out about town and want to call everyone a "faggoty faggy home fag," that is your right. I hope it will make you unpopular and unwelcome most places, but it is your right. When you are a kid at school, though, there are considerations that need to be taken because this is a mandated situation where we need to be able to ensure safety and control for the learning to happen. - Now Gone Fri, 20 May 2011 11:13:29 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17896 Can someone define what exactly "bullying" means? And then explain what the law would do to stop bullying, what the law would require of whom? "These people are murderers, little different then those like hitler" "I hope the representatives that voted against it will find out one day, via a child or grandchild, what bullying is really all about." "As a Californian, it amazes me how backwards some parts of the country " "Long for the days when religious nut-cakes were refered to as the lunatic fringe." "pig-ignorant voices of Louisiana" "10 bucks says Seabaugh has a secret gay lover." "these macho men physically abuse their wives in drunken rages" "THESE YAHOOS MAKE GREAT PUNCHIN BAGS" "seems as if members of the church, and a lot of Baptists, are bullies themselves!" I am HIGHLY suspicious of people who claim to just want to "protect the children", who claim to have pure motives, but use rhetoric like this to attack, or should I say bully, their political opponents. I am also suspicious of the new names in this forum proclaiming their out of state residence, encouraging others to just 'abandon ship' and leave Louisiana. - ragin_cajun Fri, 20 May 2011 08:51:29 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17894 We need to teach them suicide is never the answer,and no matter how tough this too shall pass. - neutral party Fri, 20 May 2011 08:41:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17892 written by John M "Once again, the pig-ignorant voices of Louisiana have spoken up. Look at this clown, James Melancon, above, who thinks its perfectly alright for one student to harass, beat, abuse, and intimidate other students." -------------------------- Excuse me but were did I say this? Freedom of Speech is the important issue. If you are punished for speaking or writing, then is that Freedom? Physical abuse is illegal and there a laws governing physical harm. Nonetheless, who is to determine what is intimation? It is a vague and subjective. Freedom of speech needs to be nearly absolute. - James Melancon Fri, 20 May 2011 08:25:40 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17891 South Louisiana should secede from Noth Louisiana. There are two different states. North Louisiana uses our tax dollars to instill hate and abandon kids. - Joseph 42 Fri, 20 May 2011 08:06:15 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17889 You know the kids in this state deserve legislators who aren't afraid to protect them. I get it, kids can't vote, so they don't matter, at least to the legislators in this state. I believe they will find out, this is a bigger issue than they'd realized. No matter the color of their skin, the religion they practice, the gender they are, the sexual orientation they prefer: THE KIDS OF LOUISIANA DESERVE TO HAVE LAWS THAT PROTECT THEM FROM BULLIES, EVEN RELIGIOUS BULLIES! I expect grown men & women, who have chosen to legislate in this state to have the integrity & fortitude to set the example & stand up to the bullies, even bullies toting Bibles! Why not make Louisiana look progressive & support ALL citizens, even the non-voting children of this state? - Morrow Fri, 20 May 2011 05:41:38 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17888 Louisiana has always been proactive when it came to protecting its citizens - ALL LOUISIANA CITIZENS, even those we don't agree with. To learn how these spineless leges crumpled under pressure of some "RELIGIOUS RADICALS" is disappointing to me. I mistakenly gave them credit for more intelligence. I mistaknenly thought they'd "evolved" intellectually. And like it or not, Louisiana has really had a wonderful history of more tolerance than this action indicates. Maybe its the history of persecution, the diaspora settling in Louisiana, that gives us a better sense of acceptance, but the state has a huge population who embraces & that includes our gay population. I suspect those religious bullies don't share a history of hundreds of years of affiliation with the state of Louisiana. I WANT ALL CITIZENS OF LOUISIANA PROTECTED FROM BULLIES (EVEN RELIGIOUS BULLIES) and that includes gay people! So get off your Bible beating soap boxes, get on your knees and do some soul searching. Do we really want Louisiana to go the way of the soldier's funeral-picketing religious fanatics? Nip it in the bud then. - Morrow Fri, 20 May 2011 05:34:18 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17887 There is only one way to deal with a bully. That is for the victim to immediately smack the bully squarely in the nose as hard as possible. This should be the law. Otherwise the bully may continue to go through life as a jackass and end up in prison. - sameolesameole... Thu, 19 May 2011 22:24:16 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8329-anti-bullying-bill-sans-gay-language-fails-in-full-house#comment-17886 Politics, or at least politicians, aren't concerned with what normal people would consider sensible or reasonable--it's only about pandering to large-contribution donors, placating the desires of the most well-funded lobbyists, and convicing the citizens of their state/district/whatever to vote for them. The way they do the last one is by involving themselvs in so-called "hot button" issues--those which titilate people's emotions. Because when people make decitions based on emotion they generally act against their own self-interest. E.g., in a fit of ire one may desire to run into the car in front of them that's been idling at a green light for three seconds... My gut says do it, but my brain realizes the eventual cost in money and time this would cause ME, so I don't. Those are easy and evident consdequences. It's not as blatant, however, that certain issues which we are made to argue about distract us from the fact that we are being robbed, both of rights and resources. We have so many fundamental and iminent problems that we (and by "we" I mean "we" as US citizens--we middle and lower class denizens, irrespective of party affiliation or ideology subscription) should not be bickering over social issues such as these (not that they're not important--they are). That's why it's easy to get enmeshed in the conversation--the topics appeal to our sense(s) of emotion, and quash our sense of reason. Let's take our political leaders to task over why they insist on cutting benefits to the middle/lower classes (what was formerly known as "America") just to maintain tax breaks for the insanely wealthy. Or why we spend so much on foreign aid and our military while our own infrastructure and economy lies in shambles. How about that we're roughtly14th globally in math/reading/science? They'll say, "Yes.. but, IMMIGRATION!" Or, "gay marriage!" Until they right our societal and economic structure, though, why should we care? If I'm losing sleep every night because I don't gett home until 2 a.m. when my second job's shift ends and then toss and turn because I have $30 grand in medical bills, why to I give two fiddler's farts about what the governemtn choses to qualify Gary and Steve as for tax purposes? It's "The Wizard of Oz" and we're expected not to pay attention to the man behind the curtain. - phil Thu, 19 May 2011 22:08:47 +0100