Comments for Growth is slow at best, stagnant at worst in Lafayette’s at-risk schools at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 21 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Sat, 25 May 2013 04:01:45 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20416 Resident -- "I'm not surprised that you don't recognize my style" c'mon man. gimme some credit, that's why I asked in the first place. I agree with you, though. Education is one of VERY few issues that have no easy answers. A lot of very different problems all come together in public schools. - ragin_cajun Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:05:45 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20380 MollyBloom: Yes I have seen our schools. Even saw the one's that leak!! It is because of the DRIVE BY MAINTENANCE that the school board has. But, don't worry, be happy, we can always increase the taxes. Well, MollyBloom NOT THIS TIME!! Like us taxpayers, they will have to live on what they now get. WHAT IS IT YA'LL DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?? - the original northsidian Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:39:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20379 Have any of y'all seen our school facilities? The tax increase is to pay for construction and maintenance of classrooms, not to give Burnelle a raise. Too many of our kids are struggling to learn in sub-standard facilities. The best system and the brightest teachers/administrators cannot overcome that hurdle. Drive by and check out all the "temporary" building that our kids have been stuck in for years. C'mon. Quit with the mean, stingy whining and chip in for your community! - MollyBloom Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:25:41 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20377 No, ragin, that's not me. I always capitalize my screen name, I never assume to know the exact cause of complex issues, and I certainly don't begin comments by saying "you people need to get your heads out of your asses." I'm not surprised that you don't recognize my style, seeing that you're wrongly suggesting that I don't recognize the importance of personal individual liberty. I don't know much about this issue since I don't have a stake in it. I'm sure, like most things, there are numerous factors to the problem. Dualistic approaches and bland cliches are not my cup of tea. As for separating out "kids who do value education" from "kids who don't value education," that seems like a rather impossible (and scary) proposal. Who gets to decide that and what are the parameters? - Resident Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:33:37 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20364 Pedro: You took the words right out of my mouth!! How many tax increases since the 1960's? That is why anyone who has HALF-A-BRAIN will vote against any tax increase!!!! - the original northsidian Sat, 30 Jul 2011 10:32:19 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20359 I am positive if we pay more taxes, hire consultants, build new facilities, give Lemoine another raise and beg him to stay our scores will soar! - Pedro Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:24:45 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20349 W.D Smith Career Center had a baseline School Performance Score of 26 during the 2010-11 academic year, well short of the minimum score of 65. Carencro High is now failing too and GET THIS-Glynn Robin and Anne Castille are currently assistant principals at W.D. Smith Career Center and Carencro High School, respectively. and now Burnell Lemoine has named these 2 assistant principals as nominees to be principals at the ECA in LPSS--great way to show good ole boy and gal system in real time. Northside High School is still failing-and under Mary Zeno in the principal's position the school's performance is worse--another assistant principal transferred from Lafayette High-can't we get some real leadership in this city? - whatsupwiththat Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:56:37 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20343 As a parent of two who do exceptionaly well in school.I attend conferences,and meetings at school often. But most teachers i visit are disconnected and treat this as a chore as if they have better things to do as if this meeting is and inconvience.How about the principal coming on the intercom saying teachers lets wrap this up weve been here long enough for the day.As a thirty something ive seen alot peers go into the teaching profession just for a check.This i feel is a part of the problem educating is a calling not a job. - neutral party Fri, 29 Jul 2011 11:11:31 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20341 I agree with Molly and that is the reason why the charter schools that are successful usually have longer school years that are anywhere from twenty to twenty-five percent longer than the regular days. I also agree that there is enough blame to go around but the problem I have with Lafayette and other parishes is that they seem numb and dumb to what is going on and it is hurting us financially and is a threat the general public safety. Have ya'll watched the local news lately? - Knowledge Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:45:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20339 Parents may be the problem, but complaining about that gets us nowhere. We need to quit "reforming" public education by tweaking around the edges, shuffling kids from school to school, and copping out with privatized charters that cull the non-achievers to cook their data. Public education has always done a terrific job of educating a great many students, but has never done a good job of educating all students. No Child Left Behind calls our attention to that and now demands that the bar be raised and that public schools succeed at educating ALL who walk through their doors. (No private industry entity is held to that standard, so please stop with those inane comparisons.) To reach the new standard, the entire educational model must change. We can agree that many children do not live in a environment that is supportive of academic achievement, but we can't do anything about their homes. What we can do is change what we can control: the school environment. To begin with, end the summertime slide that accounts for a a major part of the achievement gap by getting rid of the outdated 180-day school year. Education should be a year-round endeavor in the 21st century, which is not to say that breaks would not be included throughout the year. However, three months is too long because so much learning is lost over that span. Can we please stop arguing about who and what is to blame, and set about trying to solve the problem? - MollyBloom Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:48:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20335 It does not matter outsourcing to China, Japan, India, Indonesia, " it does not matter, there is no alternative, our own are to lazy, unproductive, and illiterate to make a difference, we lost the way a long time ago. If we would wake up and acknowledge this, it would still be too late too change courses, we are coming to the end, too many apples spoiled in the barrel.... - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Fri, 29 Jul 2011 03:54:49 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20330 Yes, it is some of the teachers fault they are and should be trained to handle any situation that arises but yet Lamoine and many of his cronies don't give teachers the proper education and training to deal with at-risk students in a changing society. All they want to focus on is curriculum which is set in stone by the state. these people are idiots. How about cultural sensitivity training, classroom management, social linguistics etc. but most of those idiots in the central office probably don't have a clue as to what these in-services are about. And we continue to fund failure. Paying for public school while sending our children to private school. Paying double. - Knowledge Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:54:48 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20329 Good to know! Maybe the tax paying public will realize its ain't the money, so LPSB should LIVE ON WHAT THEY COLLECT ALREADY! And the answer is NOT starting school earlier or having more days. In fact, GIVE ME MY TWO WEEKS BACK and start school in September! Think of the $$$ that would be saved on gasoline & utilities & wear and tear on equipment. No salary cuts, just start 2 wks later. May even have enough money to spend without taking more from taxpayers..... - Morrow Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:18:07 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20325 This won't be fixed until the education paradigm in imploded in favor of a more intuitive, less "rational" approach, such as the No Child Left Behind, testing is everything and sacrosanct approach. I had the pleasure of spending the previous week with a group of 10 non-traditional high school students from Portland, Oregon. They are non-traditional either in age (16-24), because of homelessness, trouble with the parents being dysfunctional at home, personal problems in behavior at school or elsewhere, etc. These were some of the brightest, most caring, passionate people I have witnessed in ages. They were not pretentious, some were a bit sassy, like any young adult boy or girl we could find anywhere, most were just kids becoming adults from all ethnic backgrounds. What struck me is that in order to have the opportunity to participate in the curriculum they were involved in, more service learning, out of the classroom, not beholden only to testing regimen, they had to have a "problem" arise in the first place that would take them out of "regular" schooling. That to me seemed like an enviable godsend considering how I remember my schooling. Here is a video to put this in context: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U And it truly made my week when one of the students, fresh off a phone call with his governor's office, told me: "my head is spinning right now. I used to be homeless man, and now I just talked to my governor..." I told him simply that he always could have, but the know he knows that he can. To me, that is a mark of a successful society that prepares its people and measures ourselves not in the material items we produce, but instead the kind of people we nurture and develop them into...(loosely paraphrasing Lewis Mumford, early to mid-20th century thinker.) - Jason D. Faulk Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:24:18 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20319 Can we now agree that playing musical chairs with the districts was a foolish endeavor. I'll bet the school boards solution will be to transfer kids in order to dilute the problem. If you want to educate kids from poor homes where the parents don't value education then you have to start from a position that recognizes that is the problem. But political correctness makes us avoid the obvious and try to look for some other cause to the problem. As if little Johnny's failure to learn isn't the fault of the parents who never read to him, bath him, wash his clothes or makes sure he gets good sleep at night. No, instead it's Bernel Lemoine or the teacher's fault. Same thinking has the TSA searching great-gran's adult diaper for explosives but lets Mohammad the exchange student pass right on through. All the best, Soop - Soop. Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:02:38 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20318 I TOTALLY agree with both Resident and Knowledge!! The Independent forgot to mention another aspect which sets apart the high-performing schools from those which are failing; which is : ATTENDANCE AT PARENT/TEACHER MEETINGS !! I would love to see the "sign-in" sheets taken up at meeting times in ALL of the failing schools, and see how THEY compare with those from the other schools. If a parent or guardian TRULY cares about their child's grades and school performance, they will FIND a way, regardless of INCOME, to attend such important meetings. If you can get a ride to the hair and nail salon, or the Mall, then you should also be able to get a ride to your child's school. I guess it's just a question of PRIORITY. - Joan Beduze Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:00:55 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20317 yeah, yeah, yeah, it is always the administration or the teachers, never the work ethic or the intelligence of the students. - knight Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:40:33 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20316 "You people need to get your heads out of your asses and figure out that stupid people breed stupid kids regardless of race color or religion. " Resident? Is that you? I am stunned to hear you say that! Personal individual responsibility is the problem here. I love it! There's hope for this country yet. So what is to be done? Would you support separating out kids that don't value education from kids who DO value education? - ragin_cajun Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:18:40 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20315 "If LPSS was a fortune 500 company, the whole central office would have been cleared out several years ago." Well yes, you could say that, because they would have outsourced the jobs to communist china like the rest of the fortune 500 scumbags who a diligently sinking this country. For some real KNOWLEDGE, refer to my post above yours because you, like the rest of these idiots are barking up the wrong tree. - resident Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:17:05 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8756-growth-is-slow-at-best-stagnant-at-worst-in-lafayettes-at-risk-schools#comment-20308 This is the worst administration that lafayette parish school system has ever had. Now your telling me that Carencro High is a failing school. This is ridiculous and should be he top story of the year. If LPSS was a fortune 500 company, the whole central office would have been cleared out several years ago. The taxpaying citizens of Lafayette deserve better and they need a choice. No wonder charter schools are coming to this region. They can't do any worse than these incompetents. - Knowledge Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:29:00 +0100