Comments for A Fine Mess at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 70 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Sun, 26 May 2013 01:29:15 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-22465 North Carolina just banned the cameras for being unconstitutional. Stuff that in your radar detector and speed with it, Trammel. - Mark Henderson, the guy in the photo Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:57:49 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20726 This is BS. I got a ticket for 6mph over the speed limit. There has to be more of a margin of error for the drivers. Sometimes you speed up a little to get through the yellow light, you know, so the camera doesn't get you for going through a red light.. I REFUSE TO PAY FOR THIS CRAP! I hope the rest of you will do the same. - resident Wed, 10 Aug 2011 00:06:32 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20669 Walter Pierce, editor: You've come out in support of SafeSpeed/SafeLight. Let me try to nudge you. Your writer states that the accused can get an adjudication hearing and "needn't worry about being sandbagged." The photo above that statement on p.10 clearly shows a speed van not parked exactly parallel to the road, an operational necessity for proper function of the radar unit. The independent contractors for the adjudication hearing have an extremely limited scope of jurisprudence. They will shrug and commend your argument and evidence, but still find you "responsible." You are told the next step is appeals court, which requires a $250 filing fee and the likely necessity of hiring a lawyer. Last I checked at the Clerk of Court office, not one lawyer has argued a case before a local appeals court judge. So, if a lawyer is reading this, fight the damn citation for the rest of us. That would give back to the community a lot better than an annual free hamburger and T-shirt. C'mon, Walter. Muckraking is honorable. Let's see more of it. - Square and On the Level Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:57:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20665 Is investigating! - Jim Letten Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:50:27 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20664 I think a good citizen protest, and almost certain death to redflex, would be that on a certain day of each week everyone who doesn't like the redflex cameras drive 10 miles per hour less than the posted speed limit. A five mile trip on a 45 mile per hour road would take an insignificant longer amount of time. Each protestor should have a bumper sticker explaining their actions. If only 5% of the population participated it would have a surprising domino effect, since the countless drivers behind you must drive the same speed. This protest would therefore drastically reduce the number of redflex tickets given on that day. Let's say it reduced the number of tickets by half that day, which I think is not an unreasonable number (If one driver drives slow he effects the 20 drivers behind him on crowded streets during rush hour). Now, one day of the week gives redflex about 14% of their total revenue on average. So a 1/2 hit on that day would cost them about 7% of their gross revenue. That may not seem like much, but remember it's 7% of the GROSS. That's a huge hit which would wipe out significantly more of their net revenue from Lafayette, I'll wager more than 50%. Once they see that they've got a 50% hit on net revenue in Lafayette they could possibly decide to relocate their assets elsewhere. - Aaron Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:49:43 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20650 Frankie...It doesn't matter who was here first. Sorry, your wrong once again. I'm not an Aussie. But i am not sorry for once again supporting a program which deters accidents, and hopefully someone getting hurt or killed. See my above statements once again. If you support breaking the laws and potientally harming an innocent driver, then so be it. Just as you and a handfull of other rantards don't support the program, I am just as zealous in my support over it and will continue to support it until they are done away with. Perhaps your rantards should try to educate the public that if they don't break the laws, then the cashflow will stop, then the camera will come down. Until that happens, long live Redflex..... - Southsider Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:32:12 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20632 Please, once again, if you don't like it the way things are here, you and everyone like you, please find somewhere else to do business. Really, you won't be missed.... We were here before the scamera's came here. Maybe you should go back to Australia with your Redflex cronies. - Frankie Mon, 08 Aug 2011 08:42:00 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20621 Concerned:...did you see my previous post regarding speeding and running red lights? Please, once again, if you don't like it the way things are here, you and everyone like you, please find somewhere else to do business. Really, you won't be missed.... - Southsider Sun, 07 Aug 2011 22:22:53 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20620 Concerned...as i stated many times on TDA, your lame excuses have been used. Try to come up with something new as an excuse for breaking the laws. It has always been a handfull of the same people that are against trying to enforce the laws. Try as you may, the program is hear to stay. I think more of them would be great. To bad you disagree. - Southsider Sun, 07 Aug 2011 22:12:50 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20601 written by Southsider , August 04, 2011 - 06:02 pm "Thought that suit was already settled." You thought wrong, good try, though. "Neither is Shell, Michelin, Seiko, BP, Toyota, Honda, Kia, Mercedes Benz, BMW, the list goes on and on...." However, none of those companies are attempting to collect money off of people under the title of "law Enforcement." Not to sound ugly, but this is truly an ignorant statement. "Lots of the signatures were collected by KVOL at ther corner of Johnston St. & South College during Mardi Gras 3 years ago. They scammed the general public into a free tshirt giveaway if you signed up for something. Come to find out it was for a petition. How do i know? I was located right next to them. I had to for the majority of the day their banter until the police finally shut them down. If the majority of the citizens of lafayette dissapproved of the program, everyone would be up in arms. Its the same local yocals that have beaten this dead horse to no end. They must have gotten a new horse from the racino to beat it to death too......" There is no trickery in getting someone to sign a petition. Much as with anything that one signs, it is assumed that the signer has read and consented to it. If they didn't, that is not the fault of the petitioner. And maybe you didn't notice from all of the previous comments, but there are plenty of people up in arms about this. - Concerned Non-Speeder Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:37:50 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20586 GOOD GREIF! There are more pressing things to complain about! - tlsosu1962 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:33:47 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20578 The loudest voices raised against Redflex come primarily from two sources: speeders and lawyers. Redflex reduces the speeding issue down to a simple question: "Were you speeding or not?" I have unfortunately been tagged by the cameras on multiple occasions. Never was one of them mistaken. Yes, I am becoming more conscious of the need to reduce my speed, mostly because I don't want to hear my wife fuss at me again when she sees the ticket. To those upset by the remote collection of data, do you wish to get rid of forensic evidence entirely--DNA, fingerprints, security cameras, etc? To those concerned about intrusive government, I applaud your vigilance. As soon as you succeed in scaling back the real culprit--our bloated, omnipresent federal boys in Washington--then you can focus on a few cameras serving to free up our local policemen so that they can address more serious crimes. - Richard Carter Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:43:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20577 Look at all you folk raggin' on each other. The real issue are all the many small questions arising here, such as those asked by Marrow. The Independent should be answering those questions, not kowtowing to those at the top of the Lafayette pyramid. It is obvious that the (not very) Independent did someone a favor, maybe someone who can help CFM with her legal driving problem... "...Help us make money by scaring people into paying their fines by publicising our threat to do what we legally or practically cannot do. And don't tell me that Joey does not call people names and disparage their mental health on the public airwaves. KPEL should be ashamed of it's collective self. I've heard it too many times to not notice. So don't tell me that I didn't hear what I heard. KPEL's archives have been cleansed of Joey being taken to task on his manipulation of the "conversation." - snaildarter Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:57:38 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20576 written by Morrow , August 04, 2011 - 07:54 pm Do they get salary & benefits and if so, what? I believe their pay comes out of monies collected from the fines, but how is that done? I'm fairly certain if they were to get paid by LCG it could be construed as some type of payola. However, if they are being paid by REDFLAKES, then there's definitely a conflict of interest. It's a lose-lose either way, which is why we don't know, and they aren't telling. - Question Everything Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:38:08 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20568 The title of this story "A Fine Mess" pretty much summs up the program from day one. Red light camera's in Lafayette have been a disaster since the beginning. They need to go. The local sell out politicians should have their retirement accounts full by now. Why can a chosen few politicians collect tickets from the roads that our tax dollars built? - Frankie Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:52:02 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20565 I want to know how much the retired police officers make for reviewing the photos. Who are they employed by? How many of them are there? How many hours and days do they work, or are they full time employees? Do they get salary & benefits and if so, what? I believe their pay comes out of monies collected from the fines, but how is that done? - Morrow Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:54:47 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20564 Question Everything...i suppose you know more than the judge in regards to this issue? i don't need to read anything in regards to it. It has already been exhaustively debated on the TDA site. Your rant is nothing new. Oh, and don't put words in my mouth because i support the program. Perhaps you have recieved your violation in the mail? Sounds like you can't handle the truth...bwhaaaaaaa - Southsider Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:52:11 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20562 written by Rinkelstein , August 04, 2011 - 02:19 pm And for all the Tony haters (and I vehemently oppose the cameras) when was the last time you got stuck in traffic in Lafayette? Answer: Every single day on Johnston St. from around 7:30 am to about 9 am and then again at about 4 pm to about 6 pm, Pinhook at Bendel just about any time the sun is up, Kaliste Saloom at 90 during major traffic hours, Congress St. and Bertrand to Congress St. and University any time there is any major event at the Cajundome/Cajun Field, Ambassador Caffery at the mall, any time of day, Downtown on any weekend night(Friday/Saturday/Sunday), Ambassador Caffery near I-10 any time, University at I-10 anytime, shall I go on? - Question Everything Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:46:16 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20561 "Tina, when has Joey ever called anyone a loser on the radio? " When he appeared with Burnadette Lee on KPEL about two years ago talking about the REDFLAKES issue and those opposing it. Likewise, he made the same faux-pas on KLFY around the same time. - Question Everything Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:41:26 +0100 http://www.theind.com/cover-story/8778-a-fine-mess#comment-20560 I'd suggest to the rest of the well-informed people here to not listen to Southsider. It's quite obvious he's been bought by Trammel & Co. to argue in favor of REDFLAKES. Southsider, if you support them, then you support EXTORTION. Al Capone would be so proud. Read up on your constitution...specifically with regard to Due Process of Law and Bill of Attainder. Also read up on the Privacy Act and find out how illegal it is for a third party company to profit off of photos taken of you in your car, which is an extension of your home. The red light camera photos are NOT public domain. - Question Everything Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:39:58 +0100