Comments for Roll Call: Landry-Vitter forums raise eyebrows at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 17 out of 17 comments http://www.theind.com Fri, 24 May 2013 05:56:35 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-24888 ragin_cajun -You suffer from cranial rectum inversion? Grover Norquist turned me into a Dem. Elected officials should uphold the pledge they make to the people that sent them to represent them, not some lobbyist representing multimillionaires and their corporations. It's gotten to the point that if you don't make $250,000 a year the GOP could care less about you. Louisiana has some of the worst roads, worst education, highest levels of poverty, and highest rates of cancer in the US and what does the GOP want to do? Take 30 billion in funds dedicated to road improvements and give it to a steel company to come in and pollute our state more (thanks Piyush Jindal), cut funding to schools, and cut real job training programs. I'm sick of David (diaper boy) Vitter. Prostitution is illegal and he should be held accountable. Jeff Landry refused to represent Louisiana by not attending a debt reduction meeting with the president of the country just to get his name mentioned on FOX "NEWS",making Louisiana a joke to the rest of the nation. Charles Boustany collects $20000/month of private disability insurance benefits, tried to buy a "Lordship" in England, and sued for emotional distress because he's pool wasn't fix right. Come on Louisiana! Wake up and get informed! The biggest campaign contributors are the only ones getting represented and most of them are from out of state. If you don't earn $250,000 a year VOTE DEMOCRAT! ! ! - Former Republican!!! Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:59:37 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21367 As an Independent, I will vota against any TeaBagger in the elections. We don't need their kind of treason in America... - Walter Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:38:37 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21352 The pledge is considered binding as long as the politician holds the office that the voters elected him to--not forever. The reason why the pledge is necessary is decades of bitter experience with politicians who campaign on "cutting spending" and "low taxes", but then going to Washington and doing the exact opposite. I understand what you want in a representative, I really do. Unfortunately, they've proven for 50 years that they can't be trusted with the benefit of the doubt. How do you think we got a 15 Trillion debt? Without a pledge, they'll raise taxes, tell you they had no choice, and apparently people like you will believe them. We've stepped through the looking glass when we run a trillion and a half deficit and the people who are trying to force spending cuts are the problem. - ragin_cajun Fri, 26 Aug 2011 05:53:09 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21345 We can agree to disagree cause I put the Heritage scorecard right up there with the pledge takers. It is no wonder that someone from Heritage has been following Vitter around on his "debt" tour. I want a Congressman that thinks for himself and not for a scorecard or a pledge. This is a quote from a news source "Norquist, the head of Americans for Tax Reform and a leading party power broker for a generation, drew a hard line in the sand against repealing ethanol subsidies, arguing that ending the tax breaks is equivalent to a tax increase and therefore a violation of The Pledge -- a document nearly every Republican has signed promising never to vote to raise taxes." Idiocy! - chrystal Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:24:55 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21337 chrystal -- rather than pelt you with examples of why Boustany is tax and spend Republican, or remind just how liberal his family was, or tell you to actually go and read the pledge he signed that says he can cut loopholes and still be true to his word....I'll just give you a very quick link to the Heritage Foundation's scorecard and you can compare Boustany to Vitter and Landry. Landry's not perfect, I don't particularly the little guy, but he's a lot better on this stuff than Boustany. Go and see for yourself. http://heritageactionscorecard.com/scorecard/index.html#B001255#member Maybe one day, a real journalist will come along and compare and contrast the two candidates' voting records and leave out all the titillating and divisive Tea Party crap. That would be a real community service. - ragin_cajun Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:37:35 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21318 Rajun...you are right in that they didn't "have" to raise the debt ceiling, but seriously in a few days they were going to cut a couple trillion dollars and get the senate to go along? The senate was ready to kill any bill that made drastic cuts, so the alternative was to let it expire? Boustany and Landry voted for the first attempt at cut,cap and balance and it failed in the Senate. Reality check!! Even that didn't cut the budget enough immediately to NOT raise the debt ceiling. It was going to raise the debt ceiling also. So who doesn't get paid, our debtors? our military, grandma & grandpa on social security and medicare if the debt ceiling wasn't raised? If the debtors are paid first then everyone else would be cut 45%. There is reality and then there is Washington where the Senate and President could block anything and they did. So you put your big boy pants on and find a compromise and fight another day. Best solution, maybe not, best workable answer given DC make-up, probably. And you made my point about the pledge. There are some loopholes that need to be done away with period and I want my Congressman to be able to weigh the merits of the item and not be hindered by a pledge and a mathmatical formula. It's either the right thing to do or not. - chrystal Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:43:53 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21315 "I'm under no illusions than Landry and Vitter are true independent conservatives like Ron Paul. " Ron Paul isn't running for Congress in South Louisiana. We have a congressman to elect, and it will probably come down to a choice between these two. If Ron Paul were running, I'd vote for him, too. John8989 -- "Boustany....realized that paying out bills is more important than proving a point." False choice, same one Boustany tried to present in defense of this. W/O raising the debt ceiling, they could well have cut spending and balanced the budget. They didn't have to raise the debt ceiling. They didn't have to default. They could have cut spending to match the tax revenue coming in. Boustany said flatly that was not an option. So he believes in big government and deficit spending as much as anyone else--like Obama, McCain, Bush, Landrieu. The TEA Party is not the problem here, people. It's politicians that lie and mislead for a living. chrystal -- " any attempt to close loop holes in the tax code are seen as a "violation" of the pledge" factually incorrect. read the pledge here ...http://www.atr.org/userfiles/Congressional_pledge(1).pdf I hope that Boustany is more familiar with the pledge than you are. Boustany can vote to cut loopholes all he wants all day long, and he should, too. To keep his pledge, though, he would have to cut rates dollar for dollar to match the loophole cuts. The idea is to ensure that "cutting loopholes" doesn't end up being a net tax increase. - ragin_cajun Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:47:03 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21311 I believe the reason Boustany backed out of that pledge is because any attempt to close loop holes in the tax code are seen as a "violation" of the pledge. He has said numerous times that he does not want to raise taxes, but that there are legitimate fixes that need to be made to the tax code that allow some to completely avoid paying anything and he wants to be able to have the flexibility to fix these loopholes. I say have at it. Any Landry also had a vote to increase the debt limit when he voted for cut, cap and balace (along with Boustany). Landry just didn't vote for the eventual bill, but he is on record for raising the debt limit. - chrystal Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:32:30 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21304 Boustany voted for the debt ceiling to be increased because he, unlike more people in his district, realized that paying out bills is more important than proving a point. He's a good congressman... Vitter should take notes. Period. All Jeff Landry is good for is running around screaming conservative mantras that everyone believes in but no one needs to be obnoxious about (except him and Michele Bachmann). Typical tea-partier that causes us to lose general elections with more "conservative" candidates. (i.e. Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, Ken Buck, etc.) - John8989 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:31:54 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21300 Don't forget, Goodtime Charlie voted FOR the TARP bailouts for the Wall Street Mafia. 200 to 1, the PEOPLE of Louisiana TOLD GOODTIME CHARLIE THEY WANTED HIM TO VOTE AGAINST TARP BAILOUTS FOR THE VERY CRIMINALS THAT RUINED OUR ECONOMY. AND HE TOLD US, "F-YOU". 200 TO 1!!!! AND HE STILL VOTED FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goodtime Charlie is just ANOTHER POLITICAL WHORE. I for one, cannot wait to vote him and the Communist-in Chief out on their butts in NOOBAMAVEMBER 2012. - pookiee Thu, 25 Aug 2011 05:27:02 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21286 vitter say's he's not a quiter cause he didn't hit her. He just barks at the moon when he buys the POON!! - the original northsidian Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:46:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21266 Yep, it seems pretty simple to me. If and when a Republican president is in office, Landry and Vitter WILL vote to raise the debt limit. This time around, they could play a safe political move and "vote against the president" because everyone knew the debt limit was going to be raised. It will always be raised as long as the two-party Establishment is in power. I'm under no illusions than Landry and Vitter are true independent conservatives like Ron Paul. Under a Republican president they will vote for more overseas war and intervention and military spending, they will vote to continue the absurd war on drugs, they will vote to continue agricultural subsidies in the tens of billions each year, they will vote to tell you who you can and can't marry, and on and on. - Resident Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:55:37 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21241 The bottom line is that Landry voted on raising the debt limit the way most of his constituents wanted him to vote and Boustany did not. These two will be running for the same office so why not get out and start showing your face around the rest of the new district? Say what you want about Vitter but he has been a consistant conservative voice and he has been behaving. - Sidwit Wed, 24 Aug 2011 06:50:21 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21233 It has been observation thus far that Jeff Landry has also stepped out to help Republican candidates running for State Legislature, while Charles Boustany is sitting on his hands. If Rep. Boustany is a conservative Republican, you'd think that for State Legis races within the 7th District, he would help aid other conservative Republicans trying to unseat fiscally liberal Democrat legislators. Guess Not. - RCajunrunner Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:02:51 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21231 Only in Louisiana can a politician "polish his credentials" by associating with David Vitter. And for the first time in my recollection Ragin Cajun has been accurate in his political assessment. I'm offering 110-1 odds that even though he figured it out for once, he'll still make the wrong decision thereby keeping his perfect record intact. - rambeaux rawlings Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:30:19 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21224 Looks like a duck,Walks like a duck,Quacks like a duck,its and endorsement. - neutral party Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:49:15 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8888-roll-call-landry-vitter-forums-raise-eyebrows#comment-21216 So, in other words....next year we will have to choose whether we want a Congressman that will NOT vote to raise your taxes and one that will. We will have to choose between a Congressman that voted to increase the debt limit, and one that refused to increase the debt limit. Like precious few things in life, this is very simple. I'm sure that many people will try to make this much more complex and "nuanced" than that before election day. Might even see somebody drag "race" into it. Let the games begin, eh Walter? - ragin_cajun Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:25:52 +0100