Comments for Incensed, Roemer camp cries ‘bulls*&t’ at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 28 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Wed, 22 May 2013 18:54:07 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21540 Seek and ye shall find...sometimes more than you ask for. go out on a limb and you may find yourself out on a limb. Mr. Roemer I think expected no less than what he got from Politico. I think Mr. Roemer loves to bask in his own self pity and has ever since he blew it as governor. There must be a term for this type behavior??? - around and about Wed, 31 Aug 2011 03:49:26 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21509 To ragin_cajun, his charming wife & NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN: [R]agin_cajun, I concede to your observations. I suspect an outside observer watching and reading our exchanges, would concur with your limiting judgment of my exchanges. NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN, congratulations on your attaining 75 years of life on this planet. I hope you have many more years to enjoy this wonderful planet we all live on. You personally have seen more change in your lifetime in human affairs, than any other generation of humans for the last 200,000 years. My lovely mother is 84 years of age, in excellent health, and still devoted to her die-hard Republican politics. Mom was an elementary teacher, she loved teaching 2nd grade children. It was mother who gave me my great love for universal literature, when she solicited my services as a young teen-ager to help her with her university coursework in Comparative Literature. My Roman Catholic parish priests started me on Latin when I was 7 years old as an altar boy. These were cultured, sincere and caring men who taught me the value of thinking about the well-being of our Roman Catholic parish community. Lastly, to ragin_cajun's charming wife. It pleases me that your late father was a man of learning at our local, wonderful great university, ULL. Without appearing to be too nosy, may I ask which Roman Latin author your late father most enjoyed reading? Mine are Vergil, Horace, Ovid & Tacitus! In honor of your late father's memory, I would like to bring to the attention of this virtual readership, this line from Vergil that I memorized when I was 16 years old, and have carried in my mind my whole life: Sunt lacrimae rerum et mentem mortalia! ["Sorrow is implicit in the affairs of man, and human frailty touches the heart." (the translation is that of the classicist, Lilian Feder (I memorized that as well!)] To the larger group, I never had the honor to meet Herman. To me he "is" a great man! He enriched this community by his vision, and, his even greater capacity to translate vision into reality (a most daunting task!). - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:52:53 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21498 NOTICEE : Hear Ye Hear Ye, To Whom It May Concern : Gauis Cilinus Maecenass, " IS HERMAN MHIRE in the Flesh, This is the word on Sassy Lane. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:59:20 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21490 If I actually were foolish to the point to think that my opinion or your opinion would make our national leaders make one single solitary iota of change for the better for all, I also would be getting in everyones face like Gauis and ragin-cajun, but after 75 years on this planet and having figured out the odds of anyone but the money makers giving a big rats ass, and they'll never release the reins on our politicians, who will continue to sell us out for a fng. buck. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:29:46 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21489 I am not joshing, I believe ragin-cajun's medicine vials labels have been switched on him when he was mediating with his pipe. I'm just talking here. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:20:27 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21488 Gaius -- Ok. Go back and read what you said, what my reply was, then the part when you asked me to "give content". Now I'm guilty of the composition fallacy? And, I suppose, you are not? My examples are interpretive, but your statement was not? I expressed a value judgment, and I provided supporting evidence when challenged to do so. And LOTS of it, too. I think that Politico and NBC can include and exclude whoever they want from their event. It's their event. Also, I don't think that Carlos Sierra gave any really compelling reason why Politico and NBC should rethink their decision. - ragin_cajun Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:48:38 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21464 GAUIS, true these wannabe's are not suitable to lead this great nation, finally..... we agree on something. If you have the correct time of day, we could again become agreeable with each other. LOL. ISN'T THIS TICKLISH ? - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:18:53 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21462 To ragin_cajun: Duly noted! Twenty political officers paraded for our benefit over a 20 year period or more. Some of your examples are old talking points rehashed over and over again. Here one has to remember out of a field of more than 20,000 people, certain isolated events out of five million or more events reduces the significance of your observations. What about the good things these people have done? Does not their postive achievements outweigh these ear-marked private foibles? Here I would accuse you of "composition fallacy" [technical term in logic]! Here you have drawn too wide of a generalization from too narrow of a field of observations. Besides, many of your examples are not factual but interpretative. In short, you are guilty of ideological propaganda to stir animosity in our politcal debates. Christian charity precludes me from listing Republican failings---which are generally more pernicious and hurtful of the common good. Give exmples of 20 Republicans who have had private failures. This would confirm that you have a disinterested, more objective view! By the way, What do you think of Roemer's exclusion from the September 7th, 2011 debate? This should have been the discussion in the first place. I think Roemer should have been invited. - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:03:32 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21447 Ga, Are ya'll really under the illusion that the two partys are two separate partys and not one and the same. No, not affiliated with one another, but one and the " SAME ! Rationalize this ? Why is it that the two partys spoof differences yet end with the same agendas ? People are quite satisfied with having what is disguised as a choice, one of two is a choice huh, go figure... The two are so identical behind the curtain and publically spoof vast differences, when their main agenda is to " do you and I. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:57:07 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21446 "ALTERNATIVE REALITy, I LOVE IT ! How about we call a spade a spade, Arrogrant and Gauis will be our " POSTER BOYS as our Alternative Realists ! I have to say thanks for the code word ragin-cajun. I have been struggling to name these two, and Sexual Deviants would be slighty off-base, but " Alternative Realists is so fitting, for these two chumps. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:45:18 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21430 GCM -- First of all, "nut jobs, extremists and sexual deviants" is not hate speech. It is cold hard fact. If I point out the truth, and call things what they are, you whine "hate speech"? Now for your content... Maxine Waters who publicly stated that it may be time to nationalize the oil industry in America. Extremism. John Kerry who never met a tax increase he didn't like, yet doesn't pay his own taxes. He lied before Congress about what he saw in Vietnam, threw his medals over the White House fence, then it turns out he didn't really deserve those medals in the first place. Nut job--deeply disturbed person. Chris Dodd...red-faced tax cheat who got caught taking preferential "loans" from Countrywide. Corrupt, but I admit probably not crazy. He is an extremist, thogh. Byron Dorgan the vitamin nut...if we can't all agree that THIS guy's a nut, then maybe there really are "alternate realities"... David Bonior...where to start? Bill Ayers...terrorist, lifelong leftist Democrat, nut-job, extermist, and close friend and mentor to Obama. The Squadron of race hustling "civil rights activists"...Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Farrakhan, and the horde of democratic fundraisers in small black community churches across the country--euphamistically called preachers. Jeremiah Wright is a good example. I don't want to hear anymore about Republicans' Religious Right wackos when the Democratic Party is more active in churches by far. I don't want to hear any more about racist anybody when Sharpton, Farrakhan, Jackson, and every preacher Obama ever met regularly and consistently spew OVERTLY racist venom. I don't want to hear about the right using racist "code words"...there's nothing code about "hymie town". Obama's cabinet/czars/assistants is a REAL freakshow. Let's look at.... Cass Sunstein, Steven Chu, Elizabeth Warren, Lisa Jackson--these people all seem perfectly reasonable, if you're a member of the International Socialists' Organization, or if you like to attend rallies and speaking events with Van Jones. But, hey, I don't want to imply that anybody's a Socialist..because that's really a "code word" for racism. So let me get back to the pre-Obama Democratic Party freaks out there so I won't offend anybody's delicate sensibilities.... How bout little Tom Daschle, who also loves raising taxes but won't actually pay taxes... And for the grand finale of Freaks...how bout the horniest, freakiest one of all....and it's not Barney Frank.....Bill Clinton. You may think it doesn't matter what a person does in the bedroom, and I'd agree with that. But Bill was being a freak in the Oval Office, with a girl young enough to be his daughter, and then lied about it and was impeached. Maybe the reason people vote for Republicans is because although they have alot of problems, too...they at least look a little more professional. I was gonna stop there, but it's just too fun. I'll go a few more... How about the human quote machine, Joe Biden. John Corzine....Wall Street Insider and famous liberal. Tim Geithner...another tax cheat... Enough of tax cheats, though...let's all take a moment to remeber a WELFARE cheat...Carol Moseley Braun. How about Al Franken...surely you liberals HAVE to hang your head over THAT one...shrill, irrational, and even more unqualified for the job than Obama...a comedian! Definite extermist. Back to sexual deviants...Anthony Weiner... I could go on and on Gaius...it's just too easy. So now I've "given content". Are you now "hearing, seeing or witnessing "nut jobs, extremists, and sexual deviants" in the Democratic Party.", Gaius? And I ask you, is this hate speech? I don't think so, nor would any other reasonable human being. These are the facts. The Democratic Party is at LEAST as f'd up as the Republican Party. I'm starting to wonder just how "educated" you really are. - ragin_cajun Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:24:14 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21424 Besides getting elected governor and congressman, and starting a bank with well-connected friends what did Buddy ever do? He was a disaster as governor, the legacy of his congressional career makes Jindal's look accomplished. He's good at soundbites and that is not what we need now. - rambeaux rawlings Sun, 28 Aug 2011 06:23:10 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21422 Gaius, " Your Hard theoretical atheism is commendable ! Thank you Sir, and while I wish this were not the case, it a pity but life throws curves at us, and it takes awhile to learn to deal with these curves. Lesson No.1, "There is a SUPREME FATHER, and the monkeys are still swinging from trees. Re:Roemer.... Roemer is a dinosaur, he has no inkling on how to play the game and he is dog meat in the midst of a pack of mongrel curs. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:56:41 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21419 To NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN: How do your observations relate to Walter's comment about Roemer not being invited to debate other Republicans? What do you mean by "Massengil, you be the head"? Your assertions are unintelligle to me. Perchance, you have something valuable to communicate to this group. I concur with your poorly expressed sentiments, however. - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:05:34 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21416 What a loser bunch of Ya-Yans, Fifth-Graders mentality, He said, She said, They Said, He called me an A ..... No ! He called me a P.... Aw He's lying .... And Gaius Cilnius Massengil, you be the head, and aaron you so close I wonder about your "Happy Ass. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:17:08 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21414 To ragin_cajun, Aaron & NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN: Gentlemen, let us keep on topic here. We should use urbane language as well. If we are screeching at one another, we are abusing the privilege afforded to us by The Independent in this blogging venue. It is, also, bad manners! [R]agin_cajun, your use of hate language is quite extensive. Review your last 50 blogs here, and extract all negative, derogatory words (which you are so fond of)! Your immediate use of "nut jobs, extremists & sexual deviants" is merely your latest contributions to reviling language to dehumanize your fellow man. It was you who asserted unsubstantiated charges against the Democratic Party, whereas in reality these charges of yours apply better to the Republican Party. I take note that you did not supply content, as I had asked you to do. NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN, your hard theoretical atheism is commendable! No sane mind can believe in religion any more. However, that does not mean there is not considerable insights and understanding to be gleaned from these ancient texts. I personally believe that the concepts of Faith and Beliefs are outmoded. They should be replaced with Knowledge and Suspension of Judgment (the latter for cases where sufficient empirical evidence has not accummulated yet, so as to capture Knowledge). Lastly, Aaron, I do not think I have corresponded with you in cyber space. I am horrified by NS's improper language to you. After all, you were merely being witty at my expense ["Greek drag"]; I certainly took no offense. I thought your comment was funny or enjoyable. Do you know what your Egyptian-Hebrew word-name 'Aaron' means? It is an aristocratic family name in the ancient Egyptian language, as preserved in Hieroglyphs of the 19th Dynasty of Pharonic Egypt [1295-1069 BCE]. - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:03:08 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21408 Hate language? You're confusing me with Walter. Provide some examples of my use of "hate language". You're not gonna throw off knee-jerk liberal charges like that unchallenged. Show some examples and explain how you infer that it's "hate language". - ragin_cajun Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:38:49 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21401 Arrogant Aaron, really dodo if you can't follow the subject matter just excuse your sassy little candy-ass and take your cruise through pickle park, " Again. Also, NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN HAS NO USE FOR THE JEWISH FAITH, BUDDHISM, CATHOLIC, PROTESTANT, SCIENTOLOGIST, MORMONS, HOLY ROLLERS, BAPTIST, NOR ANY OTHER MAN DESIGNED RELIGION, SO DO NOT CATAGORIZE ME INTO ONE OF YOUR MAMBY-PAMBY PSEUDO-SAVING RELIGIONS. - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Sat, 27 Aug 2011 01:02:45 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21398 To ragin-cajun: It was you who has mentioned "sexual deviants." Give content! Since you use 'hate language' continuously here, I presumed it was "code" for homosexuals. Am I wrong in these matters? Another excellent book for your library is Dr. Eric D. Schneider & Dorion Sagan, "Into the Cool: Energy Flow, Thermodynamics, and Life" (The University of Chicago Press, 2005) 362 pp. This will teach you the foundation of energy, how biological systems are sustained. How we actually keep alive! To Aaron, I am not Northsidian Shotgun! Deception is repulsive to my mind. It betrays fundamental integrity of character. I think one should observe the norms in personal relationships face to face in cyber space or virtual reality as well; otherwise, you are betraying basic trust in human affairs! - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:59:54 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/8909-incensed-roemer-camp-cries-bullsat#comment-21390 Does anyone else think that Maecenas is actually Northsidian Shotgun in Greek drag? - Aaron Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:08:44 +0100