Comments for ‘Occupy’ movement flares in NOLA at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 44 out of 20 comments http://www.theind.com Thu, 23 May 2013 21:27:53 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-25453 these ppl need a reality check. if all of you are protesting then how is the economy suppose to get any better? don't you ppl have lives or jobs? im sick and tired of watching the news and hearing about how their still loitering around and protesting. life's unfair, build a bridge and get over it. - Inupara Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:13:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23754 Occupy what? I think they got the wrong place. . . Worth noting: From the Washington Post, "Federal employees whose compensation averages more than $126,000 and the nation's greatest concentration of lawyers helped Washington edge out San Jose as the wealthiest U.S. metropolitan area, government data show. The U.S. capital has swapped top spots with Silicon Valley, according to recent Census Bureau figures, with the typical household in the Washington metro area earning $84,523 last year. The national median income for 2010 was $50,046". - Whip it good Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:52:22 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23492 According to Yahoo News, the We Are The 99% movement is now 56%. Still a majority but dropping. - Cracklin Patin Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:26:25 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23351 [R]agin_cajun: It is common knowledge that Union workers make more money than non-Union workers. Your quote above about capitalism and exploitation does sound too Communistic or Socialistic to me. I would use the older term, "oppressive working conditions without proper regard for safety & well-being of your workers." Your insight on "collectivism" sounds too Russian to me. There does seem to be a leveling out of hierarchy due to the explosion in knowledge, and the affordability & accessibility to it, however. Are you brushing up on your Russian? I see they are coming to Lafayette, Louisiana. Is that why you had an interest in the Russian Cyrillic alphabet? It is easy to master, if you know Greek. I don't think anyone wants our "new Information" to work so failed old ideas can gain a new footing. Furthermore, I would say that we do have a "new" social condition due to the globalization of finance, manufacturing & technology. - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:44:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23342 Occupy the Fed. Audit the Fed. End the "fed." Period. - Not surprised Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:11 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23321 So people are marching in the streets for they know not what. And commenters here are angrily attacking me for merely asking what it is these protesters want. Interesting. "Only in a union of the workers of all nations will you be victorious over capitalism and liberated from exploitation." Does that sound familiar? I think that instead of trying to determine "proper use of the formidable knowledge we have gathered in this Society over the last 70 years", we should remember the lessons of human history. There is no "new information" that will make collectivism work this time around. There are no new social conditions that will finally make it workable. But, I do agree that "If we go down the tubes, we literally take the world with us; we are still the most advanced Economy." That is true. - ragin_cajun Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:12:40 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23289 [R]agin_cajun: Merit of the movement? Too soon to define. It is a decentralized movement based on 'social networking' technology. Everyone is a "participant," there are no "leaders." It is all about Jobs! Is the only purpose of a society---profit making? The "system" is not fair. The larger society does not work for the individual, and his/her advancement by playing by the rules. There is more to life than chaining a human dog to a post for economic plunder. It is about well-being! We have serious work to do in this society, if we are to advance our "greatness." Should we just permit Wall Street & Corporations to rob our National Treasury to make their quarterly bottom-line profts? As a "reasonable and unbiased citizen" [Which, of course, is not true; we all carry the baggage of conscious bias (Republican Conservatives) and unconscious bias (Republican-Democratic-Independent citizens)] your input is just as valuable as mine to this movement. This is about a proper use of the formidable knowledge we have gathered in this Society over the last 70 years. Also, a proper use of technology to aid our 'temporum conditio' [Latin, "The Condition of the Age"]. We really do know how to make a more just, humane and doable economy for everyone! Sit back, and internalize the thousands of contradictory, paradoxical sentiments expressed by thousands and thousands of our people all across this land. Don't forget the obvious: $5 Trillion Dollars of Investment over the next ten years! If we go down the tubes, we literally take the world with us; we are still the most advanced Economy. We will need such men as you, [R]agin_cajun, to protect the 'conservative' sentiment in Social Democratic Liberalism. You must protect your personal Wealth from Wall Street greed, as the rest of us! - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Mon, 10 Oct 2011 16:58:27 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23287 Gaius-- Please answer..."So is this what we all agree is the position of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement? This is it? Is this what I, as a reasonable and unbiased citizen, am to look at when evaluating the merit of the movement? " - ragin_cajun Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:48:34 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23280 [R]agin_cajun & Monsieur James Melancon: Excellent points! I suspect that a local brilliant 'Software Engineer' would have much to teach all of us here. We have many such intellectual minds in our land, due to our brilliant local University in Advanced Computer Science! At the core of this movement is the interaction of "systems" by code programming. I remember many years back that a brilliant software engineer that was responsible for permitting 22,000 software engineering languages to inter-communicate on the global cable AT&T project, "I have outdone God in human languages!" Of course, he was correct! - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:10:33 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23277 written by 99% "who are sitting on RECORD SETTING AMOUNTS OF MONEY to start using some of that money to start hiring people." ------------------------------ There is a lot of cash but hire people to do what? With government policy in disarray and a looming deficit the future prospects are dim. Is it logical to give people a paycheck to do nothing? If was your money would you pay people to do nothing? - James Melancon Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:49:54 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23276 Gaius -- http://current.com/shows/countdown/blog/keith-olbermann-declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city-co-authors-ryan-hoffman-and-lex-rendon So is this what we all agree is the position of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement? This is it? Is this what I, as a reasonable and unbiased citizen, am to look at when evaluating the merit of the movement? Yes, or no. - ragin_cajun Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:28:43 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23265 I have all the empathy in the world for productive diligent people who have had their lives turned upside down by social/economic upheaval. I don't think that MORE social/economic upheaval is going to help anyone, whether they're employed or not. I have no problem at all with peaceful social protests or those who engage in them....unlike most of the commenters here and the reporters. And I would greatly appreciate some "accurate public knowledge" about the Occupy Wall Street movement. Do you have some to share? - ragin_cajun Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:10:22 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23264 [R]agin_cajun: You can't be so dense that you do not know what Occupy Wall Street is all about? Read your hated Liberal Commentator, Keith Olbermann, at www.current.com . Also, the public intellectual, the Philosopher Slavoj Zizek: "The problem is the system" and "We are allowed to think about alternatives." Then go back to your myopic Republican spin-masters for your latest injection of 'ignorance, hatred & greed' punditry! - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:06:09 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23263 [R]agin_cajun, Holly & 99%: There is merit to all three of your sentiments, especially, 99%. The more we quote accurate 'coram publico' [Latin, "public knowledge"], the less we shall disagree here. Does one really not expect peaceful social protests, especially amongst our young (25% of them are unemployed), when so many of our fellow Americans are out of work? It should never be forgotten that Work is a vital need of human beings, or they will go insane. One should not forget the devastating effects of a lack of income (poverty) wedded to helplessness: dearth, destitution, despair, derangement and death by 'mors voluntaria' [Voluntary Death or Suicide]! Let us have some humane feeling, compassion & serious concern for our fellow Americans! We are all in this together! We require $5 Trillion Dollars of Investment over a ten year period to even have a future in our Society! - Gaius Cilnius Maecenas Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:13:25 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23261 99% Thanks for the tirade. You're about as helpful as Gaius. I asked because I freely admit that I don't know what these people want. Your response doesn't help too much--"evil corporations"? I hope Resident has something more to offer. - ragin_cajun Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:42:55 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23254 "What is the position of the Wall Street protesters?" Really? You don't know? That's pretty sad. But not surprising. Contrary to what you have heard on Fox News and your Republican leaders... They are looking for JOBS not handouts. They want CORPORATIONS (You know the ones who came into our towns, put our mom and pop stores out of business and now only hire mom and pop to work part time so they don't have to pay for insurance and other basic needs of the people they employ) who are sitting on RECORD SETTING AMOUNTS OF MONEY to start using some of that money to start hiring people. They want AMERICAN Corporations to quit acting like F-ING TRAITORS TO THIS COUNTRY and to start putting AMERICANS back to work so we can get out of this economic mess that THEY got us into. They want AMERICAN CORPORATIONS to quit putting their 1% elitist stockholders PROFITS before AMERICAN FAMILIES. Is that too much to ask? Is that really to F-ing much to ask? That for once, corporations do the right thing and pay their employees a living wage, with a full time job that pays enough to properly insure their family? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/corporate-profits-share-of-pie-most-in-60-years-2011-07-29 (straight from your beloved Rupert's Mouth) That is their "position" Anyone who can't see that the super wealthy are using their money, power and influence to corrupt congress into doing their bidding is ... well let's see, probably sitting in Lafayette LA, working for a company that gets most of it's income from the oil industry... Am I right Ragin? Living in your little bubble. Watching your Fox News (owned and operated by the 1%). Completely oblivious to the reality of the world. Because Ragin hasn't been laid off, lost his retirement, had his insurance dropped because he got sick, because it hasn't happened to him, then everyone else is doing it wrong. Everyone else is obviously a pot smokin hippy and hasn't worked a day in their life. Nevermind the fact that he lives in one of the richest cities in the country, totally buffered by the umbrella of big oil. "So who should we prosecute?" The 1% Oh and about this: "As for Occupy Wall Street, I understand there's a "manifesto" or "list of demands" on the Internet somewhere? Anybody have a link?" No once again you are wrong, there is no Manifesto There is no "official" It's just alot of pissed off people who are not clueless about what is going on. The list is no longer where it was posted because the guy who posted it said the media totally took it wrong and blew it out of proportion. - 99% Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:16:19 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23253 Who do we prosecute? Obviously, we get Gaius Cilnius Maecenas, after all he knows everything or a least quotes from others who know everything. On second thought, Gaius Cilnius Maecenas, does not have any thoughts of his own, so he's just a minion in the conspiracy. - Holly Golightly Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:12:44 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23239 I understand that perfectly. So who should we prosecute? - ragin_cajun Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:51:26 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23236 Gaius;Ragin, It's the bailouts and the lack of prosecutions that pisses people off! What don't ya'll understand about that? Regular folk are tired of the 2 1/2 crooked! - the original northsidian Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:53:56 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9164-occupy-movement-flares-in-nola#comment-23232 "This occupation of Wall St. is what should have happened right after the TARP bailout " As I recall, "bailouts" was what got the TEA Party movement started. The complaints, as I recall, were TARP, the first stimulus plan, and federal healthcare legislation. - ragin_cajun Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:58:59 +0100