Comments for Feds link fracking to water contamination at http://www.theind.com , comment 1 to 14 out of 14 comments http://www.theind.com Tue, 21 May 2013 07:05:39 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25433 Children ! Turn the channel . - NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:16:16 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25426 "but the term renewable is misleading" Oh, no, James. Now you've done it. I think them's fightin' words! :) - ragin_cajun Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:22:45 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25422 by Resident "talking about the larger issue of energy" -------------------- You are correct. Opponents will use the possible problems of fracking to stop drilling without weighing the positive. As to renewable energy, I did not read any comments here in opposition. Nevertheless, all sources of energy should be explored but the term renewable is misleading. Solar requires mining for materials including oil to make the various parts, wind turbines required the same and some find the noise and aesthetic presence objectionable, dams require large amounts of land along with the materials to build them, nuclear is clean but has its waste issues, and wood, the classic renewable, produces smoke. So far, none of these and other methods have the utility of oil and gas. - James Melancon Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:09:07 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25418 James-- You've hit a nerve there, buddy. I've never SEEN Resident like this. :). Calm down,resident, I'll get solar panels first thing after new years, okay? - ragin_cajun Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:07:23 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25416 Who is saying "we go back to the cave"? This is reporting on a scientific study linking groundwater pollution to fracking. Plain and simple. I posted an earlier comment about this being the second study linking pollution to fracking. The first was done in May of this year by Duke university in the Pennsylvania/New York region. So two different geologic regions where groundwater resources have been polluted. Not looking good. Clean water is a public asset and EPA has a duty to study issues that may affect it, in the interest of the public. No one is saying "we go back to the cave." If you guys are talking about the larger issue of energy and fossil fuels, I'd say that those who urge a faster transition to renewable energy are thinking about the future, not the past, and those who insist on clinging to fossil fuels while bashing renewable energy are the ones who want us to 'stay in the cave.' - Resident Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:30:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25395 "we go back to the cave" Ahhh, James. That is a very powerful and evocative turn of phrase. That is exactly what these people want us to do. They want us all to turn away from an Aristotilean world view and return to the cave of Plato's allegory. They reject the idea that everyone can know reality, and they believe that only a select few can know reality, and that they should be the ones to decide the fate of the rest of us "anti-intellectuals". Profound insight you had there, and very well written. :) - ragin_cajun Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:39:58 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25381 There are risks with fire too, getting out-of-bed is dangerous also, but if we don't accept the byproducts of human activity, do we go back to the cave? Energy is necessary to human progress. It makes life better but has consequences. These consequences need management. Do we ossify our lives? I doubt we can. Too many will want a hot cup of coffee. We can take reasonable risks and modify as we go, that's all we can do. - James Melancon Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:02:50 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25377 "now we know they were wrong" No, we don't know that. As the commenter said, AND the EPA report also said, the geology of the area (in Wyoming) plays a huge role in whether groundwater contamination is possible from drilling operations. Let's all take a deep breath, not let Walter whip us into a hissy fit... :) - ragin_cajun Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:25:04 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25376 Yes, it's "A totally different animal from fracking the Haynesville and Barnett shales" The significance is that there was a time when the industry claimed this would not happen in the Haynesville and Barnett shales and now we know they were wrong. Assuming that nothing will go wrong until it does is foolish. Yet that is exactly what the robber barons would have you do. They are those who would destroy everything and anything for their own financial gain. They profit from risking other people's property, lives and rights. Yea let's just let the oil industry do whatever it wants, we'll worry about the effects of fracking ONLY if people start dying of cancer from drinking fracking fluids. I mean really, it's not like anything like that has ever happened... right? - citizen Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:24:39 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25375 The EPA report discusses poor cementing and improper isolation of well zones. That is what causes blowouts in the Gulf and, perhaps, groudnwater contamination in this instance--unexpected movement of fluids in the wellbore. But, I can see how that's a lot harder to explain, and fit in a headline, than "fracking". And, as Obama would say, fracking "fits well on a bumper sticker". Oil companies "frack" a lot of wells, and have for decades. That's not gonna stop, nor should it. What we need is a bit more diligence in testing and verifying that the cementing and casing programs are implemented as they were designed, and that they isolate different well zones effectively. Another interesting tidbit in the EPA report is that the oil company wouldn't tell EPA what chemicals it used to frack the well? That's just bullshit. They need to tell when asked. Period. I've heard there's a law exempting oil companies from disclosing this--repeal it. If the EPA wants to know if all these fluids are contaminating ground water, and knowing what was in the frac fluids helps their research, then the oil company need to disclose it. - ragin_cajun Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:53:03 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25361 This story is about coalbed methane drilling and fracking, where the coal layers are naturally located within the ground water to start with. A totally different animal from fracking the Haynesville and Barnett shales. - braveheart Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:25:54 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25360 Old ANECDOTAL news, Mad Dog. The report came out today, which is new in my book. - Walter Pierce Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:07:34 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25358 Old news Walter. - Mad Dog 20-20 Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:59:42 +0100 http://www.theind.com/news/indreporter/9511-feds-link-fracking-to-water-contamination#comment-25351 The oil and gas industry causes pollution? I'm shocked! - rambeaux rawlings Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:40:14 +0100