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20090715-cover-0101.jpg“There’s no way that government could be able to afford to provide the services that we provide,” Maria Placer says matter-of-factly, “and that goes for all the agencies that are service agencies.” The former KLFY anchor and news director, now executive director of 232-HELP, is moonlighting as spokeswoman for more than a dozen social-service organizations that receive roughly $281,000 from Lafayette Consolidated Government. That’s 62 percent of the nearly $453,000 LCG — and the Lafayette taxpayer — doles out annually in direct donations; 14 other entities — cultural service non-profits like Festival International and the Acadiana Arts Council, as well as annual events like Mardi Gras and the Christmas parade — share the remainder. Including in-kind donations like police security, utilities and public works, LCG aids 31 social service and arts/culture non-governmental organizations, or NGOs, with more than $780,000 annually. The figure and the recipients have, for the most part, remained static for more than a decade.  

But that could change. An ordinance to phase out all funding will be voted on July 21. “What we do really is an intangible service,” Placer says, “because you can’t measure the impact of how much a life is worth, or how much training someone who is mentally disadvantaged is worth to be self-sustained, or feeding the elderly who are in-bound or house bound.” Her NGO, 232-HELP, is strictly a referral service: it puts the needy — those already on the margins and beyond the gaze of elected officials — in touch with agencies that can help. Definitely intangible. Unfortunately, intangibles can be a hard sell. City-Parish President Joey Durel has had a bead on eliminating funding for social service agencies since virtually his first day in office. 

Placer, her voice wavering with passion at times, made a pitch July 7 to the Lafayette Consolidated Council, which will decide on the funding phase-out. This go-round, the funding, according to the ordinance, would be transferred to the Community Foundation of Acadiana and reduced by a third each year until — the math is easy here — there are no LCG funds after three years.  

Following Placer’s plea and a short presentation by Acadiana Center for the Arts Executive Director Gerd Wuestemann, who represents the cultural half of the NGO equation, the council voted unanimously to advance the introductory ordinance sponsored by council members William Theriot and Jared Bellard to a July 21 final vote. Most indications are Theriot and Bellard don’t have the votes to get the ordinance approved — it was advanced out of a kind of parliamentary decorum — but the NGOs sweat it out all the same. “Of course this external agency thing comes up every year,” says Wuestemann. “We have after last year’s discussion talked to the city about coming up with a more permanent solution in the long term.” 

The council’s vote to advance the funding phase-out came — ironically — on the same day Durel proclaimed this the Year of the Symphony, in honor of the Acadiana Symphony Orchestra’s 25th anniversary. That the ASO has survived a quarter century is testament to the value placed on culture in Lafayette: audiences are eager to attend, to purchase season tickets, to support fundraisers. But it’s also a testament to the city’s willingness to underwrite the arts, to make Lafayette a regional hub for culture and entertainment, to make Lafayette one of the cool places. The ASO receives about $10,000 in external-agency funding from LCG — a small percentage of the orchestra’s overall budget. But most mid-sized cities don’t even have orchestras to call their own, and even the symbolic gesture of ten grand can be crucial. 

A problem for both halves of the NGO funding debate — the social service organizations on the one side and the arts/culture providers on the other — is that both are lumped together into one big fund; Faith House, which aids abused women and their children, is essentially competing with Festivals Acadiens for funding. Yet there seems to be no public policy governing how the funds are disbursed. “It’s very scientific,” jokes Performing Arts Society of Acadiana Executive Director Jackie Lyle. “They go to the spreadsheet, they click on funding from the year before, they paste it into this year. That’s the funding mechanism. That’s the process by which funds have been allocated for more than a decade. It really hasn’t fluctuated.” 

Even Durel, who has proven himself a pragmatic politician, acknowledges the less-than scientific method to all this madness. Applications from the agencies go to Community Development first and then on to Durel’s office. But Durel admits, “I basically copy and paste, because in the end, after my first couple of years, I decided at some point, that such a minute piece of budget — such a tiny, tiny piece — it wasn’t worth the battle for me. I put it out there. I don’t get to make the decision in the end; the council gets to do what they want to do. They shift it around any way, so I just put it out there and let them do what they’re going to do with it anyway.” Direct funding of external agencies amounts to about seven-tenths of 1 percent of the LCG budget. 

Durel is literally of two minds about NGO funding: he favors giving groups like Festival International and Festivals Acadiens money because there’s a return on the investment in the form of tourism — big time tourism — and the spending and tax revenue that go along with it. As Wuestemann points out, such events are tangible; the music wafts over the city, the streets get congested, the media get excited — it all coalesces in a long, loud weekend. But Durel also favors groups like PASA, which helps keep a city-owned building, the Heymann Performing Arts Center, in the black, even though that benefit is spread over several months. “They probably bring into the Heymann Center about $100,000 a year,” Durel says. “If I’d have had a customer when I was in business for myself that spent $100,000 a year with me, I would never have hesitated on doing something for them that would have resulted in a maybe 5 percent rebate let’s say, a 5 percent discount because they spent so much money with me.” 

And therein lies the dilemma for social service agencies like Placer’s 232-HELP ($31,462 direct donation), and Faith House ($26,234 direct), Healing House ($15,101 direct) and Volunteer Instructors Teaching Adults, an adult literacy program ($5,034 direct) — for proponents of a funding cut there’s no obvious return on the taxpayer investment. 232-HELP does not bring in tourists. VITA doesn’t fill hotels. But Placer argues the return on the investment comes in the form of social service non-profits picking up a hell of a lot of slack. “You’re talking about an awful lot that government would have to take up, and there’s no way they could do it,” she insists. “There’s no way the taxpayers want to face the added money that it would cost them to take care of it.” 
 



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AcA Executive Director Gerd Wuestemann is proposing a model that takes NGO funding out of the council’s hands.
Photo by Ooti Billeaud
 
In the lot adjacent to the Acadiana Center for the Arts, dust swirls as a 100-foot crane swings a massive vertical slab of concrete into position. Hard-hatted men in orange vests scurry and tinker about, each attending to his small role in building a $15 million state-of-the-art performing arts addition to the AcA. Inside the arts center, it’s controlled chaos as more than three dozen children and teens participate in the Summer Youth Shakespeare Camp, practicing lines, designing costumes and building sets (see this week’s LivingIND lead story). The state of Louisiana has ponied up for this addition to the AcA, the funding is allocated, the theater will rise. But work today on this addition — another feather in Lafayette’s cultural cap, another reason people will drive from Baton Rouge and Lake Charles and Alexandria and beyond for our festivals and our nightlife — happens just hours after the council voted to advance the funding phase-out. The AcA is operated by the Acadiana Arts Council, one of the NGOs facing the cut. But the arts center is LCG-owned property, managed by the non-profit AAC, which receives just over $69,000 in external agency funding from city-parish government. And as Wuestemann points out, almost half of that allocation is turned into grants for other groups. Grants allocated through the AAC this year employed 99 artists who produced 141 performances and programming activities that were viewed or participated in by more than 45,000 people in rural as well as urban areas. That’s about 37 percent of the population of the city of Lafayette, 22 percent of the parish population — a wide reach indeed. “If you think about that kind of return on investment, of how little money it takes to provide this much programming and service back to the community, because we operate so very leanly, it really becomes unfathomable why anyone would want to cut this,” Wuestemann says. After granting out $31,990 to others, the arts center is left with $37,419 for operational costs. The center’s light bill alone is $72,000 per year and will more than double when the theater opens. “We’re managing a city-owned building and we’re doing it on a shoestring,” he adds. “We’re managing it with very small resources and doing an excellent job of maximizing those resources. Besides providing a professional service for the city, we also provide an extraordinary service for the community — in community development, in bringing the community together, in providing high levels of quality of life.” In other words, according to Wuestemann, this operation is so lean, you have to squint to see it when it turns sideways. 

The genesis of this annual funding fracas goes back two decades — before Lafayette’s city and parish governments consolidated. Back then, mainly social service agencies relied on government funding of upwards of $1 million, and the left hand (city government) didn’t know what the right hand (parish government) was doing. Over the years, cultural agencies crept into the funding equation through the beneficence of council members. “It definitely has to do with who knows you,” says PASA’s Lyle. “I don’t even think there’s that much favoritism in here. That’s really not it either. It’s who knows you.” 

The ship really hit the land following consolidation in 1996. Where the Acadiana Arts Council once got $150,000 annually from the Lafayette City Council — a definitely more urban and arguably more urbane legislative body — post-consolidation the purse strings were also being held by council members representing rural areas, and the funding fell as the council became a reflection of Lafayette Parish as a whole. “At the point of consolidation it became a more difficult sell,” recalls Buddy Palmer, former executive director of the AAC who now holds a similar post with the Cultural Alliance of Greater Birmingham (Ala.), “because the decision makers were not consumers of the product, so there was no value really in their world view in supporting arts and culture. It just was not their understanding.” Call it a hick-up in the power equation. Not coincidentally — although they’re certainly not hicks (but who can pass up a well-timed pun?) — the ordinance to phase out funding for NGOs is co-sponsored by council members who represent more rural constituencies in Scott and Broussard. 

“The public policy behind this is flawed,” Lyle says of both the application review process as well as the inclusion of both social service and cultural service agencies in the same funding mechanism. “It doesn’t work because you’re trying to judge apples and oranges against the merits of each other. Or maybe in this case oranges and free range chickens. It’s two different things.” 

Wuestemann, a classical guitarist by training, has devoted no small amount of time to studying the dilemma since taking the AcA job about a year ago. He proposes a funding model similar to what’s been adopted by cities like Chattanooga and Milwaukee: The city budgets funding for NGOs annually, but that money goes into an endowment held by an outside agency such as the Community Foundation of Acadiana, which can then grow that endowment by doing what it does best — massaging Daddy Warbucks, i.e., individual and corporate donors; the AAC, on the cultural NGO side, would act as the grant administrator, which is in line with its traditional function. Social service NGOs would follow the same pattern. “Moving funds out of the council to the [Community] Foundation to then phasing them out represents neither a solution nor creates a legacy,” Wuestemann told the council July 7. “Let us also remember the recommendation of the city’s own [Lafayette in the Next Century] comprehensive plan to increase arts funding to a level at least comparable to cities our size.”  



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232-HELP Executive Director Maria Placer argues agencies such as hers provide vital services and shoulder a burden for LCG.
 Photo by Ooti Billeaud
 
Ultimately, it could be Placer and the social service agencies that fall on the blade. While arts/culture is a golden calf, social services may be the sacrificial lamb. Durel has tried to eliminate their funding since he took office five years ago; Theriot and Bellard are gunning for them. What they have in their favor right now is being tied to arts/culture. Durel wants to fund arts/culture, which brings a definable, countable, demonstrable return on the investment — $6 back for every $1 of support by some estimates. He does not support the Theriot/Bellard bill as it’s currently written. 

The push to eliminate funding for external agencies like Festival International, covered by The Independent Weekly over the years and online by The INDsider over the last week, has even raised the hackles of outsiders. In an e-mail sent to each member of the council and copied to The Independent, Tom and Karen Loro of Nevada City, Calif. — tourists to Festival International twice over the last few years — urge the council to maintain funding. “We attend all kinds of music festivals in California and we have two of them in our own hometown,” Tom writes in closing. “But I have to say that the amount of fun and good times available in Lafayette during Festival International pretty much slaps the #@$ out of anything else we go to. As it stands next year we have two vacations planned: Thailand for six weeks, Festival International for two weeks.”  

For Durel, there’s only one solution: bring it to the voter: “That is ultimately the only answer there is to this, and I’ve told that to anybody who will listen, and that is, you put a millage out there and you go to the taxpayers ... If it doesn’t pass, you will have as a community told us you want us to no longer fund anything outside of this government. That, to me, is the way to ultimately get this out of politics and finish the discussion. The only discussion you’d have after that is who gets the money, and then you’d have to come up with a vetting process for that, which is, I think, a little bit better than what we have right now.” 

But the arts camp is leery of this approach for the same reason consolidation was problematic: many rural voters — half the parish population — are suspicious of all that high-falutin’ namby-pamby cultural stuff. Plus, even Lafayette’s relatively weak recession doesn’t bode well for any tax proposition placed before voters. 

Yet Placer isn’t so sure, at least insofar as social services go. “That’s what Acadiana’s all about,” Placer says. “The mayor said it himself: We are the only city in the state of Louisiana that has gained in population [since 2000]. And it’s because of the way we are, the people that we are, the flavor of this area, the fact that we’re a giving, caring community.”

 

 


 

The N-G-NOs 
Theriot, Bellard main proponents of funding phase-out. By Nathan Stubbs 

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 William Theriot and Jared Bellard
 Photo by Isabel LaSala
 

Last year, councilmen William Theriot and Jared Bellard stood alone in support of a budget proposal to zero out Lafayette Consolidated Government’s funding of non-profits, or non-governmental organizations. Theriot and Bellard have now taken up the cause again, this time in the form of a three-year phase-out plan that shifts the funds over to the police and fire departments.  

“I think there is a better chance of it passing this year,” Bellard says. “It’s a matter of priorities. Once we have met all the needs of our police and fire departments, then we can start looking at funding for non-profits. Some of these non-profits benefit only about 5 percent of the population whereas police and fire protection is parishwide; it covers everyone.” 

LCG contributes an annual total of $452,723 in supplemental funding to NGOs, spread among 23 different agencies. 

Theriot stresses he and Bellard are not trying to work against the non-profits. “There’s a misconception about all this stuff with the non-profits in that they think we’re trying to do away with them,” he says. “That’s not the case. I mean, there’s a possibility some of these non-profits might actually receive more funds than what they get now.” 

That scenario seems unlikely. Theriot and Bellard’s ordinance, up for final adoption before the council on July 21, calls for a 33.33 percent cut in LCG’s funding to external agencies over each of the next three years. The ordinance also takes the funding out of the council’s hands altogether, funneling the remaining three years of allocations through the Community Foundation of Acadiana, which would then award the money in the form of grants. The hope is that the CFA would be able to draw in private donations and, after three years, be able to continue at least some of the funding without any assistance from LCG.  

CFA Director Raymond Hebert says that “anything is possible,” but “there are no guarantees” in what type of funding the organization could provide on its own. The CFA has taken a somewhat ambiguous position on the issue, wary about being seen as partners in a plot to cut funding to non-profits.  

“We’re not endorsing or opposing this proposal,” Hebert says. “There are a lot of different ideas out there. And this is not something we sought out. We’ve been called to the table.” Hebert acknowledges another idea being discussed is for LCG to continue funding non-profits, but that the grants be awarded through the CFA, as a means of removing politics from the process.  

“We’re only promoting that if there’s an opportunity for us to enhance this process, if there’s an opportunity for us to enhance the good non-profits that do such good work, then we want to participate somehow, someway,” Hebert says. “Ideally, we would like to be in a position to have discretionary dollars that we can grant on a competitive basis. We’re interested in enhancing quality of life in our community, and if our experience, if our expertise can offer some value to the process, then we want to participate. If it can’t offer any value, we really don’t want to participate.” 

Theriot and Bellard appear to be facing an uphill battle in winning over the support of their fellow councilmen. City-Parish President Joey Durel, who is also opposed to the ordinance as it’s written, would consider vetoing the bill if it passed in its current form. “I think if it has any chance at all of passing, there’s going to be some amendments applied to it,” Durel says. “If it causes more harm than good, then I can’t support it. And I think what we’re doing right now is we’re throwing the baby out with the bath water.” 

In his first term, Durel proposed cutting off LCG funding to social service agencies, but dropped the issue when hurricanes Katrina and Rita created a greater demand than ever for those organizations. He still favors ending government funding to select social service agencies and revisiting funding for arts and culture organizations, which he views as providing a more direct return on taxpayers’ investment.   

Theriot, a Republican who’s often shown a libertarian streak since joining the council, has used the issue in promoting a more minimalist government. “Personally, I do not believe this should be a government mandate,” he says. “Individuals should be able to choose if and how much they wish to give to these organizations. The government is telling you what you have to give money to, and that’s not what America is about.” Theriot also claims that fewer people now donate to charities “because government does it for them.”  

“I know [the non-profits] provide a service, and they help people absolutely, and it’s a great thing,” says Theriot. “The only question I have is the mechanism by which they are funded. You name me any private business that goes out there and says, ‘you know what, I’m going to go to the government, you give me some money so I can get going?’”  

Reminded of several examples of government subsidies that go to the private sector, including state funds and incentives now being directed to assist private businesses including Foster Farms chicken plant, the new V-Vehicle car manufacturing company and the New Orleans Saints, Theriot says he isn’t sure he supports those initiatives either.  

“The thing is, is that that concerns me quite a bit,” he says. “There is too much of a reliance on government, in my opinion. We need to have people who are willing to be intuitive, do it on their own, be self-reliant. I don’t like to see it when people rely on others to get things done.” Theriot is quick to point out that he opposed the recently passed federal stimulus package, as well as bailouts of the auto and financial industries passed by Congress. 

“Our major priorities in Lafayette are fire, roads, drainage, infrastructure and safety, that’s it,” he adds. “That’s the priorities of government, which means you have to take care of those priorities first.” 

“Say you work for a business,” Theriot continues, “and your boss says, ‘OK I need you to go fill up the company vehicle with gas, here’s $50.’ You go down to the gas station, you pump $20 of gas, then you go inside and you buy a box of Twinkies, a couple of cases a beer and some lotto tickets and then you go back to work. Is the money going where it was really supposed to go? And what do you think your boss would tell you? In this instance, the taxpayers of Lafayette are our bosses, and they’ve given us money and told us that we’re supposed to use this money in a certain place, and that’s the main justification for it.”


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written by Robespierre , July 15, 2009 - 01:29 pm
It's time the NGOs stand on there own. Taxes are for public projects (roads, water, sewer, police, etc) not to fund loosely controlled NGOs. NGOs are Trojan horses whose real goal is the employment of bourgeois bohemians who can't find a real job.
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written by pawpaw , July 15, 2009 - 04:20 pm
Without the arts and social services you won't have a big enough population to have roads or fire depts or anything else to service. Your population will have moved on or landed in the pen. Listen, you stubborn jackanapes, even you do not live by bread alone. But, maybe football is all you'll ever need.
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written by Lucius , July 15, 2009 - 04:26 pm
Bourgeois bohemians? Paranoid much?

A real job? What is a real job. If you are paid a wage for a service or product, is that not a job? Most of the people that work for these NGOs choose to do a job, for very little pay, with next to nothing in resources and knowledge that they will be under constant threat of being eliminated. Why? Because they have a passion to help people. They have a passion to educate people and help make their lives fuller. They work harder than most people I know.

NGOs add to the quality of life of Lafayette. It helps Lafayette attain the great rankings that politicians are so eager publicize.
NGOs bring in more money than would be saved by cutting funding.

And believe it or not the arts and cultural tourism is an industry. And it is one of our industries. And it is just as important as oil and gas. Just because some don't like it or don't understand, or wish it wasn't so - that doesn't make it unimportant to the quality of life that is enjoyed here.



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written by gwyn , July 15, 2009 - 05:53 pm
Robespierre: I think you need to invest in a good dictionary!
Bourgeois: Of, relating to, or typical of the middle class; Held to be preoccupied with respectability and material values.
Bohemian: A person with artistic or literary interests who disregards conventional standards of behavior.
Now, sir, try this one on for size:
PHILISTINE: A PERSON WHO IS LACKING IN OR HOSTILE OR SMUGLY INDIFFERENT TO CULTURAL VALUES, INTELLECTUAL PURSUITS, AESTHETIC REFINEMENT, ETC., OR IS CONTENTEDLY COMMONPLACE IN IDEAS AND TASTE.
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written by Walter Pierce, Managing Editor , July 15, 2009 - 06:04 pm
I think gwyn just tore Robespierre a new one.
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written by J E Sanders , July 15, 2009 - 06:06 pm
I'm with Robispierre. "Non-Governemnt" is the key here. If it's not a government function, those who support the organizations by mouth should support it from their back pockets, not from mine.
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written by Lucius , July 15, 2009 - 06:27 pm
Well if funding is cut for NGOs like Festival, and some how we are able to still put it on, the government will still gladly take all of monetary benefits that Festival generates. Point is we cannot compartmentalize everything. It doesn't work. Life is not black or white. Governments cannot function this way, no matter how much you wish.
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written by Boomtown , July 15, 2009 - 06:58 pm
Lucius is right on the money. It's easy to say "give it the chop" to services and events YOU don't happen to utilize or patronize. When people say, "lulz festival st00pid; I'd rather go muddin' than give my tax dollars to what I assume, for some reason, are all a bunch of dirty, jobless libruls," are they bothering to look at the return investment? (I'm focusing on Festival because that's what I assume Robespierre was alluding to with his angsty bohemian remark.)

That'd be like me like praying for the downfall of Judice Inn because I'm a vegetarian. Or of Lafanda because I don't like to see old people having fun. These are private-owned businesses that mean a lot to the community. Compare that to a festival that has impacted thousands of lives locally and internationally. And in the case of Festival, you can't put a price tag on that. Oh wait. You can. Because it generates mountains of tax revenue for five days straight. Why do you hate the small businesses that reap the benefits?

I enjoy Festival, but could easily list off 100 people who enjoy it far more. That doesn't mean I'm too naive to see all the good it does for this place. Quit being a selfish philistine. (Thanks, gwyn.)

P.S. - Robespierre, here's a story I recommend you read:
http://www.theind.com/content/view/4670/1/
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written by Ashley , July 15, 2009 - 07:58 pm
NGO's provide valuable goods and services often times more efficiently than government can. Most are lean, mean, service providin' machines that people depend on for that "hand up" almost all of us need at one point in our lives. Yes, as with any sector, there are some bad actors, but to offer the sweeping statement that nonprofits are "loosely controlled" shows an ignorance of the sector in general. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. I've not heard anyone posit the view that because Bernie Madoff was a crook than all financier's are as well.
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written by Transplant , July 15, 2009 - 08:19 pm
I'm really torn on this one. First of all, I'm a capitalist. So, a big part of me wants to say: "If it can't stand on its own, the people of the area must not really want it bad enough... and the government shouldn't be asked to provide support... and the program should die." However, the part of me that moved my family to Lafayette tells me that things like Fest and the ACA set this community apart for me. You can't really calculate exactly what they add in dollars and quality of life. But, they are some of the reasons I chose Lafayette over places like Baton Rouge and Lake Charles.

I'm certain that some of the agencies that get funding don't deserve, and should not get, funding. However, I've concluded that I want things like Fest and the ACA to continue doing those things that make our community unique. Let's separate cultural and social programs. I'm all for supporting the cultural, because I believe that most of the programs are actually a net gain financially to our community.
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written by Jackie Lyle , July 15, 2009 - 09:17 pm
All who are interested in this issue: Please recognize that not-for-profit businesses that receive funding through LCG's external agency program have contractual, legally binding obligations to provide specific professional services to LCG and to the citizens of Lafayette Parish. These contracts are preceded by the filing of grant applications. External agencies are also required to file quarterly and final reports. Funds are released only as reimbursement for expenses detailed in budgets submitted as part of the grant process.

Be clear on this point: The fact is that no not-for-profit is "given" money by LCG. The funds support professional services in much the same way that LCG contracts with private entities for legal services, garbage collection, architectural services, engineering services and other professional contractual services.

The external agency issue does need attention from the administration and the council. Public policy regarding cultural and social services that provide local access to resources for citizens does not exist today. It did not exist in 1984, 25 years ago when Lafayette Parish adopted home rule charter, and the public policy did not exist before that point, was not developed at the point of consolidation of parish and city governments and neither does it exist today. Are we all actually happy to be puppets in this sorry game, or is anyone else ready to help our community advance?

Opinions abound about what government should and should not fund. That's important public discourse and citizens should care. Act now and speak your position to each of the council members. This is our job as citizens. Insist on sound public policy and encourage all parties to get on with the business of growing our community.
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written by Don Bertrand , July 16, 2009 - 01:41 am
Re: An Ordinance by the Lafayette City-Parish Council (Theriot, Bellard) to Phase out External Agency funding over the course of three years and transfer said funds to fire and police

In short I am not in favor of this ordinance for a multitude of reasons.

The Ordinance
Before I discuss the objectives/benefits and any shortcomings of funding for “External Agencies”. I would address the ordinance itself.

The Ordinance would do nothing to stem funding this year and before any changes can take place for the next budget year (2009-2010) the council will still address this issue all over again and it would have to be adopted as part of the budget for the (2009-2010), “by Ordinance”. In other words, we will have this discussion again during the budget process.

There is no need to dedicate these funds to fire and police. This may help sell the ordinance by offering a sense of sound fiscal behavior, or an attempt to gain favor with others, however if this council wishes to give additional financial support to fire and police or any other community necessity, it can certainly do so during the budget hearings and the adoption of the budget for the 2009-2010 budget year.

If this is a good ordinance and acceptable to all council members and the community, it will stand on its own and does not require a swap.

The ordinance assumes a role by The Community Foundation of Acaidiana as administrator of the funds for three years with a zero balance and no funding in the fourth. In the discussions I was privy to with the Community Foundation of Acadiana, there was never any agreement that it would accept this proposal. I am of the opinion that the Foundation would be placed in the untenable position. If the council wishes to eliminate funding after three years, it does not need the Foundation. The council can do this in the budget process.

I am unclear at this time whether or not an IGA (Intergovernmental Agreement) would be necessary and the ordinance fails to address this as a legal question.

This ordinance makes no attempt to address the External Agencies significance to our community on an individual basis. The ordinance on the contrary lumps all these groups into one, paints with a broad brush and does not recognize the consensus which has been built in the community for many years.

While the ordinance is presented with the best of intentions for the taxpayers, I believe the return on investment is such that it is precisely those taxpayers who will suffer the result of not having their local government’s participation and involvement.

There are those who have told me this decision to end External Agency Funding is based on political ideology. I disagree. It is a community decision, made over many years.





The Discussion of funding External Agencies

This discussion is not a waste of time, however it is a discussion that needs to be ongoing, and should be approached with and understanding of our community’s history, prior social sensitivities, commitment to the arts and our cultural survival, past recommendations by focus groups, economic development issues, investment in our community already made, and an understanding of “who we are” as community with unique heritage. A heritage we had to fight to preserve.

We will not have satisfactory resolution if this issue only comes each year at budget time.

I have been involved in discussions with how fairly these funds are distributed and whether or not they should remain as line items and why some other External Agencies have not been given the opportunity to participate in the funding. A comprehensive approach is needed to determine how best to disburse the funds and that oversight should be with local government’s input of course but with the expertise of those who operate in these areas based on merit and effectiveness of leveraging these funds.
Government leverages funds on a daily basis with grants and aide from the state and federal government (our tax dollars coming back to us). We will continue to do so to stretch our investment (tax) dollars in our community. Bang for the buck. However, it should be noted that there are definitely times when External Agencies do a better job of leveraging tax dollars than government can, thanks to a dedicated volunteer work force.

There are several models which should be considered and vetted. However, this ordinance does not consider any model. It eliminates completely funding of any kind.

The Community Foundation of Acadiana
Earlier this year I had several conversations with some fellow council members about the funding of External Agencies and all were sincere in a desire to approach these funding mechanisms. There were differing views of course, however the common denominator was how could we fairly and effectively approach the subject of funding external agencies with an eye on the future of their survival without government funds.

I felt that one local component could play a vital role, The Community Foundation of Acadiana. We called in The Community Foundation for discussions and ideas for public/private partnerships which could develop a plan to ensure that if government funds were not available, local not-for-profits could survive and continue to provide the services that government can’t.

I am of the opinion that a long range plan with a legacy fund of some kind, one that attracts private dollars, could leverage government funds so that one day in the future, government funding would not be necessary. I still believe this has merit however it cannot be achieved in a three year plan.

I am also of the opinion that some programs should be grant programs and that The Community Foundation may be the most appropriate way to administrate these grant funds. This certainly is not an area of expertise for me and would consider it appropriate to hear what the Board of Directors of The Community Foundation would have to say as well as others in the community who work with these agencies week in week out. Grant models exist which can vet applicants using fair terms and methods.
I am additionally open to any process model which offers financial oversight and guarantees fair opportunity to all in the community who may benefit and creates a future opportunity.
Don Bertrand
Councilman District 7

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written by mad dog , July 16, 2009 - 02:55 am
“Say you work for a business,” Theriot continues, “and your boss says, ‘OK I need you to go fill up the company vehicle with gas, here’s $50.’ You go down to the gas station, you pump $20 of gas, then you go inside and you buy a box of Twinkies, a couple of cases a beer and some lotto tickets and then you go back to work. Is the money going where it was really supposed to go? And what do you think your boss would tell you? In this instance, the taxpayers of Lafayette are our bosses, and they’ve given us money and told us that we’re supposed to use this money in a certain place, and that’s the main justification for it.”

What??? without taking this too personally, that poor comparison is really a in insult to the NGOs that do so much for our community.
Here's the bottom line ...
These nonprofits typically turn every $1 they get from the government into $3 or $4 -- whereas our government tends to find a way to turn $1 into .25 cents worth of services. Who do you trust?

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written by Robespierre , July 16, 2009 - 03:48 am
To gwyn:

Bourgeois Bohême, in French. A/k/a BoBos
Yuppies or dinks, love to differentiate themselves by visiting foreign countries before the herd of ordinary tourists flock after them, eat alternative/fair trade/organic food such as "bio fair trade Miso soup". They tend to live in mixed neighbourhoods to be near the poor, but they send their children to private schools to avoid too close a contact with the natives and they price all the poor out of the neighbourhoods they gentrify. Of course they concentrate in some parts of Paris and never could live in "la province". They often vote for the Communists or the Greens but take the fullest advantage of the tax gifts offered by right-wing governments.

P.S. To wit, Jackie Lyle is a pretty good example of the local variety. Better yet, Walter Pierce.
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written by Robespierre , July 16, 2009 - 02:26 pm
Hey Walter, you deleted my last post.
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written by Walter Pierce, Managing Editor , July 16, 2009 - 02:47 pm
We have to approve comments before they post, Robispierre, and frankly I'm unwilling to police the Web site 24/7; I like my evenings off, which gives me time to pet my free-range chicken and weep upon my precious, dog-eared copy of Ulysses.

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written by gwyn , July 16, 2009 - 07:11 pm
Never been to a foreign country. Prefer organic for health reasons, like I prefer not to fill by body with chemicals. Definitely live in a mixed neighborhood (go Upper Lafayette!), but none of my neighbors are poor...many of them are better off than I! Sent six kids through Lafayette Parish public school system. Never voted for a Communist, only Democrats.

If Jackie Lyle and Walter Pierce are good examples of our "local variety" then line me up next to them!


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written by Lisa M. LeBlanc, FVIP Ex. Director , July 16, 2009 - 07:38 pm
What is the actual debate here? 7/10 of 1 percent of the total budget? Policy? Safety? Politics?

I don't really appreciate my tax money buying golf carts but it does. I don't particularly like my tax money being spent to pay the salaries of councilmen but it does. I don't particularly like my tax dollars paving roads in other neighborhoods other than my own but it does. And that is Ok because I am this community. I am invested in the betterment of this community. I want Lafayette to continue to grow and prosper and thrive. Get the point?

It is responsibility of government and those who govern to ensure that our community thrives. A thriving community and its government supports everyone in the community, not just those who drive on the roads or drive golf carts, not just those who are able to enjoy the parks, not just the arts, not just social services, everyone! All the pieces that make a whole. Non-profit organizations generate the majority of their own funding, follow the same rules as business, and are held accountable to those they serve and those who support them. We will continue to do so.

A government that provides a percentage of the total budget only demonstrates their commitment to the whole of the community. It sets a good example for the rest of the citizens in the community and proves that the non-profit organizations are a welcome, important and a viable part of this community just as any other contractor the government employs to get a job done.

I enjoy a good debate. I believe it generates interests and gets citizens involved in the process. Whatever your view, you should contact your councilman; you should invest in the future of your community, if not with your pocketbook, then with your voice.

This council needs to be held accountable and follow the lead of their constituents. They are bound to set policy as willed by the people of their community. The non-profit community, arts and social services are ready to help in any way we can. That is what we do...help.

Lisa M. LeBlanc
Ex. Director
Family Violence Intervention Program

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written by Lucius , July 16, 2009 - 07:55 pm
Oh Robespierre!
You crack me up.
Please do tell me more of you conspiracy theories.
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written by Robespierre , July 16, 2009 - 08:49 pm
To Lucius: Actually, Walter just took more time than usual---sorry Walter. BTW, I don't believe in conspiracy theories, especially the religious kind.

To Walter: The Chicken was a little stringy. And, I will loan you my copy of Ulysses.
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written by Jackie Lyle , July 17, 2009 - 02:04 am
For the record. We live in a basic neighborhood. No change of residence in 25 years. Graduate of public school system, as are all kids. Facts are important to public discourse, so to further clarify: My passport can be described as unimpressive and, although some parts of Houston seem like foreign countries, I've never had to go through customs on outbound or inbound travel.
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written by ragin_cajun , July 17, 2009 - 03:18 am
"Earlier this year I had several conversations with some fellow council members about the funding of External Agencies and...etc, etc, etc" So you saw this problem earlier this year, you had some conversations with some councilmen, and then what happened? These other councilmen actually came up with an ordinance that reflects their view on the issue, but you don't like their ordinance. Did you come up with any solutions? Doesn't sound like you did. Your response above is that there's a problem, there's some solutions, but you'd like to hear from some other people because you can't decide. And are you saying that their position is not based on their political ideology? Then why do YOU think they want to end external agency funding? Maybe what oughta happen is each and every social service that wants money from the city should submit something that explains what they do, why it's important, and why they think the fruits of other people's labors should be taken from them to pay on it. And then the council can vote on it. That way, I, as a voter, can see what the council is spending this money on. Because right now, I don't know what any of these NGO's really do, where they spend this money, and what the real benefit is. And this article says most other people would have a hard time identifying the benefit to the community, too.

And as for Durel's idea to "bring it to the voter", well that's a great idea. What do you think about that idea, Mr. Bertrand?


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written by Robespierre , July 17, 2009 - 03:22 am
To Lisa M. LeBlanc: "I don't really appreciate my tax money buying golf carts but it does"---me too. If you like, sell the carts and give the proceeds to the NGOs as a parting gift.
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written by Robespierre , July 17, 2009 - 03:43 am
Here’s another one; Bourgeois Bohemian: A liberals major, a failed liberals arts major, or other artsy-fartsy type who feels the use of public funds for cultural events is justified although the cultural event is little more than a personal hobby.
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written by Denice C. Skinner , July 17, 2009 - 03:53 am
Here's the list in case anyone is interested.

EXTERNAL AGENCY FUNDING

ALL CATEGORIES

FY 08-09 BUDGET

FY 08-09

ADOPTED

CATEGORY/AGENCY BUDGET

1 DIRECT FUNDING PER AGENCY:

2 Acadian Village/LARC 1 0,068

3 Acadiana Arts Council 6 9,409

4 Acadiana Symphony 1 0,068

5 Acadiana Youth Inc 1 1,617

6 Big Brothers/Big Sisters 9 68

7 Boy Scouts/America 1 ,742

8 Faith House 2 6,234

9 Family Violence Intervention Program 1 8,683

10 Festival Internationale 7 2,000

11 Girl Scouts Council 2 ,517

12 Healing House 1 5,101

13 Lafayette Catholic Srv Ctr - Share the Light 1 7,134

14 Lafayette Catholic Srv Ctr - St Joseph's Shelter 1 8,877

15 Lafayette Comm Health Clinic 3 1,461

16 Lafayette Council on Aging 3 8,722

17 Lafayette Mardi Gras Association 5 ,034

18 Lafayette Museum Assoc-Capital 3 ,872

19 Lafayette Teen Court 9 ,680

20 Performing Arts Society of Acadiana 4 ,840

21 SLERC/211 31,462

22 SMILE 4 0,000

23 SMILE-RSVP 8 ,200

24 VITA 5 ,034

25 TOTAL DIRECT FUNDED $452,723

26

27 IN-KIND BY LCG DEPTS:

28 Black History Parade - Police 5,000

29 Christmas Lighting - Utilities 25,000

30 Christmas Parades - Police , Public Wks 4,100

31 Crawfish Festival - Police 10,080

32 Festival Acadiens - Utilities & Police 23,800

33 Festival Intl - Police, Pres, Public Wks, Utilities 6 0,300

34 Greek Week - Police 11,200

35 Mardi Gras Parades - Police, Public Wks 225,000

36 Martin Luther King Parade - Police 12,000

37 TOTAL IN-KIND FUNDING $376,480

38

39 GOVT/NON-PROFITS CONTRACTUAL SERVICES:

40 Acadiana District Livestock Show (AG Center) 1 0,000

41 LA Crime Prevent Advisory Comm 4 ,750

42 Commission on Needs of Women 3 ,600

43 Soil & Water Consv District 2 5,000

44 Acadiana Open Channels 2 20,000

45 ARDD-Acadiana Regional Dev Dis 1 9,051

46 Lafayette Parish Service Officer (Veterans Affairs) 2 9,436

47 National Guard 6 ,000

48 Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner Program 4 ,000

49 Soil & Water Conservation District 2 5,000

50 ULL Grant Position (Federal Lobbyist) 3 5,000

51 TOTAL CONTRACTUAL SERVICES $381,837

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written by Muni Golfer , July 17, 2009 - 01:45 pm
Golfers earn their keep? How many NGO's do you think have held golf tournaments for charitable purposes? LCG does not offer reduced pricing to charities for their fundraising efforts, which ultimately reduces the burden on the community? In fact the cart fees, green fees, and the pro shop's take are all priced in to the entry fee for each player.

Golf is probably the only sporting activity in Lafayette that charges ever higher fees whether it is for fun, practice, or competition. How much do you pay to play, or practice playing, tennis, basketball, soccer, or jogging around the Gerard Park track? Nothing is given to Golfers and you can't "walk on" to practice for no charge. Carts cost each rider $13, green fees cost $16, and soon these too will increase.

I support the NGO's throughout the year and sometimes I even do it on the golf course. FORE!!!!
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written by Robespierre , July 17, 2009 - 02:12 pm
$381,837? Spend it on roads, water, etc. or reduce taxes. $20,000 for AOC? My goodness, do who have to bankroll the Kook Channel?
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written by Soop , July 17, 2009 - 02:24 pm
If we put the entire Consolidated Government Budget under the scrutiny we are giving to this particular .7% (I'm assuming the person that listed this figure was correct), then we could probably double funding for NGOs.

Where we put our priorities says a lot about our community. If you want to sit at home watching Dancin with the Stars or demanding that Walter publish your comments quicker, then be my guest. But why punish others who choose to take an interest in other pursuits. Or who try to promote more cultural offerings which lures more people or tourists to the area.

I am a transplant to Lafayette but grew up in a place not far away. The number one comment I get from people my age back home is that there always seems like there is so much to do in Lafayette. Why not continue to foster that image instead of trying to destroy it?

All the best,

Soop
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written by ragin_cajun , July 17, 2009 - 03:28 pm
Soop--

Nobody's trying to "punish others who choose to take an interest in other pursuits. Or who try to promote more cultural offerings which lures more people or tourists to the area." The goal is to have those who want to do those things pay for it themselves.

I think that duck hunting is part of our heritage. It draws people from out of state every year to our area to spend money. It is an unquestionable part of Cajun heritage. And the federal and state government already give tax dollars to NGO's to support duck hunting. How about if I form a group of interested duck hunters, create a "marsh space", similar to a "green space", and take troubled teens duck hunting a few times a year. Think that LCG should give $20,000-$50,000 a year to that cause?
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written by Frank N. Sense , July 17, 2009 - 06:19 pm
Commission on Needs of Women gets $3,600? I smell sexual bias. What about men? They need a commission too.
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written by Don Bertrand , July 18, 2009 - 02:18 pm
To: rajun_cajun
I would be glad to respond to any of your comments or questions. You want full disclosure just like everyone else, well have the courage to use your real name. I will go you one better, call me.
Council Office: 337-291-8800
You can make an appointment to visit with me or leave me a number where I can contact you.
Oh, and yes, I have had other ideas which require more information and input from others. But a "Kill Bill" approach is not what I am looking for. and yes, I do not mind if it is put on the ballot. I will even predict the outcome. City would vote for it and the parish would not. I beleive this ordinance is short-sighted, despite the fact that I give my fellow councilmen the respect for it being well intentioned. I have been educating myself for some time, I suggest you do the same. Call some of these agencies and find out for yourself. No, better still call all of them. They are listed in the phonebook. What I have learned, I have clearly stated. You may not agree and that is your right. I look forward to hearing from you or any other who would like to discuss the subject.
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written by Gaywynn Gaude-Bertrand , July 18, 2009 - 02:33 pm
What makes our community so vibrant? Our rich cultural heritage- our food, music and art are rare in the vast landscape of America. We welcome visitors with open hearts, and they leave forever changed. We are a passionate and compassionate folk. That many of your families may not have been touched by special needs is a blessing. The life of my brother born with Down’s Syndrome was touched by the mission of L.A.R.C. My elderly father and widowed aunt receive a warm lunch during the week (I bring dinners.) Being “shut in” without the social interaction of earlier days of their lives, they look forward to seeing the volunteers who bring lunch. It takes a community/village to reach out to those around us. Perhaps this is not the place for you if you don’t want to participate in our community.
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written by ragin_cajun , July 18, 2009 - 03:46 pm
That's really touching Gaywynn. But that still doesn't explain why funding for those programs should come out of taxpayers' hides. You're laying out what "our community" is, and saying that if "you don't want to participate in our community", then "perhaps this is not the place for you"? You're right. A socialist utopia is not the place for me. Maybe what LCG should do is pass an ordinance that triples funding for NGO's, and mandates that every citizen MUST work for one of them for 10 hours a week without payment of any kind? Would that better suit YOUR idea of what our "community" should be?

Who do you think you are to tell people they don't belong in "our community" if they don't agree with YOUR idea of what it should be? Is that the attitude that "makes our community so vibrant"? You "welcome visitors with open hearts", but your neighbors can only stay here if they agree with you. that's so compassionate of you :)

Who do you think you are to tell people they don't belong here? Who do you think you are to tell people how they should spend the money they have earned?
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written by The fun in dysfunctional , July 18, 2009 - 06:15 pm
ragin_cajun: "Maybe what LCG should do is pass an ordinance that triples funding for NGO's, and mandates that every citizen MUST work for one of them for 10 hours a week without payment of any kind?"

Yes, comrade, you are finally getting it! All Power to the Workers Soviet! Death to the running dog capitalist tax payers!
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written by Bruce Bernard , July 20, 2009 - 04:07 am
While i fully support funding the NGO's, I can't imagine that after 23 years, the Festival needs 72k for the event. Whats the corporate sponsors for? I think the original monies were for seed money to get the festival off its feet. Now 23 years later it still needs money? I say just like any other business(which FI is), tighten itself up and lets use the monies for other more deserving NGO's.
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written by Soop , July 20, 2009 - 12:42 pm
Ragin,

First, there are only 6 programs that LCG funds that meet even the minimum level you suggest for your troubled teen duck hunt. With the levels most programs get, your adventure would likely get about $5000. Since I believe kids that hunt don't commit crimes, then yes I would go for getting more troubled teens into hunting.

Despite the bad example you used, let's chase that rabbit. If someone said let's vote on the paved state roads that lead to your duck camp, I think the majority of Louisianians would vote no. Directions to my duck camp already include "turn off the paved road" just as yours probably does but I wouldn't want to drive all the way from Abbeville to my camp on dirt roads (assuming LA would approved paved roads to Abbeville).

The notion of "screw these programs," we will get them once we have enough people here to support them but not until then is just plain short-sighted. It reminds me of the line of thinking regarding the ULL football team: that if more fans came out and spent more money, then we would have a better program. With all due respect, that is just not how it works anywhere except Fantasyland. If you spend the time and treasure to build a better football program, then people will come, the money will flow and you get more improvements which hopefully push the team even higher. If you say, no we are not going to spend money until the program can sustain itself, then you get exactly what we've gotten the last decade of UL football.

The same hold true for the NGOs. If the little bit of money invested by LCG makes the difference between success or failure of programs that benefit Lafayette, why not help them along? Especially when these programs can be pointed to by those persons pushing Lafayette as a business destination as a terrific example of our quality of life.

All the best,

Soop


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written by J , July 20, 2009 - 01:26 pm
I think the article and the comments are really interesting because they indicate our uncertainty about what a good government is supposed to be. Should it be as simple and efficient as possible so as to avoid interference and corruption or should it be intertwined with the cultural life of the community, intermingling with it in every corner?
My vision of "good" is usually independent of governments, so my opinion about this sort of thing changes more than I like to admit. But I would like to add two things.

First, NGO stands for Non-Governmental Organization. Often times they are created specifically to effectuate functions that government should not or cannot effectively accomplish. Nevertheless, the good in them has often convinced us to cross the line and fund them--at least in small amounts. In fact, the biggest NGO supporter in the world is Uncle Sam.

Second, I think this shows the beauty and risk of democracy. I do believe a simpler and purer government is usually best, that the community will still come together for its extra-governmental needs on its own terms. Nevertheless, I think if a majority of the community wants the government to involve itself more with NGOs, then that's what it should be--like it or not--that's what we signed up for in this country.

Best to all of you, my neighbors.
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written by Lucius , July 20, 2009 - 03:29 pm
I am so amazed at the level of paranoia in some of these comments. It is comical. Keep it up - it really helps your point. :)
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written by ragin_cajun , July 20, 2009 - 04:36 pm
Soop--

I understand your point, and I agree with it mostly. I just don't think that LCG should do the investing. Not in duck hunting, ULL Football, or anything listed under "Direct Funding by Agency". It's not the money, it's not the NGO's or what they do that's the problem. The problem is that government is hampered and complicated by this. Government needs to have a very clear purpose, and very clear goals and objectives. History shows that governments that operate outside of those goals and objectives get unwieldy. For us to ignore history and do what feels good because we think we know better is arrogant. LCG has alot of irons in the fire, and to propose that LCG trim the budget and simplify its mission is a good idea. What is the limit? Does LCG even have one? Or will the only restraint be the "wisdom" of the councilmen and mayors we elect--trust them to decdide on a case-by-case basis?
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written by Soop , July 20, 2009 - 11:12 pm
Ravin Cajun,

Your question as to the limit of government: "Or will the only restraint be the "wisdom" of the councilmen and mayors we elect--trust them to decdide on a case-by-case basis?"

The simple answer is yes. Conservative philosophy is not about just saying no to everything at the national, state and local levels. The conservative philosophy is as much power in the hands of the people and not "government." The place to milk the maximum amount of "good" out of government is the local level.

Most people get all worked up over the Presidential election and could care less about local council elections. But when it comes to improving our every day lives and building a better community, the local elections are where it is at.

Most people will never meet the President and even out of the ones that get to "meet" him rarely get more than a few seconds. But your councilmen/women? You can meet them at the store. Even Don Bertrand posted above and practically begged for you to give him a call.

Your points are more suited to be directed at the federal government, not local government. You've got the right fix but have it aimed at the wrong problem. I'm still chuckling at your comment that "history" should be our guide. As if history is replete with examples of LOCAL governments funding NGOs have lead to tyranny or "unwieldiness" (whatever that means). Or that bloated local governments have led to anything!

All the best,

Soop
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written by Fedup , July 21, 2009 - 03:01 pm
No Money for NGO's Go Earn it! The Nanny State must end!
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written by ragin_cajun , July 21, 2009 - 03:13 pm
For the last 50 years, all over the world, middle class and rich people move their businesses and families out of the cities and out to the suburbs. You've never heard of that? Think LOCAL tax burdens and bureaucracy don't cause that? Or is 50 years too short to be considered history? Don't know what "unwieldiness" means? Go apply for a permit in New Orleans, Detroit, Memphis, Cleveland, Philadelphia, etc. The last thing their city councils will ever do is cut spending on social services or streamline LOCAL government processes. Just keeps growing.

Conservative philosophy IS all about limiting the size of government. It is most certainly NOT about "milking the maximum good out of government"...not at any level.

That's my whole point. Government is not the place for this. I called Don Bertand and had a long talk with him about this yesterday, and I listened to Joey Durel's comments on this on his radio show last week. Both would agree with me, to some extent, that getting the city out of this would be best for all concerned.

Bertrand and Durel did change my attitude about the funding for these NGO's. I probably would not vote for this ordinance either. Don Bertand says that 3 years is not enough time to get them off the city's budget. I take him at his word on that. But if not 3 years, then how long? If LCG has a new approach to make the NGO's self sufficient with the help of the CFA, then that's great. Let's see it, in writing, and let's commit city government to that. How much money, for how long, and for WHAT REASON?

But having some automatic annual outlay of money in the budget every year that is beyond reproach because of some mirky emotional appeal is completely unreasonable.

Another problem with all this is that we're lumping together direct spending on social services, increased fire and police protection at parades/festivals, and tourism/economic development spending. 3 different types of spending with 3 very different purposes.
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written by Soop , July 21, 2009 - 09:23 pm
Ravin,

You think people have moved out of the cities because of taxes? Hah! They didn't call it "tax flight." They called it "white flight" for a reason. Plus, no one is talking about defunding NGOs and then cutting taxes. They are talking about defunding NGOs and spending it on more bureaucracy (certainly in the form of more cops and firefighters because who could be against that, right?).

And you talk about the permit processes in the argument against funding NGOs? Isn't that an argument FOR funding and letting them streamline at least some of the social programs without having to jump through the hoops of government regulations? A perfect example if the USDA buying all that ham for $1.51 a pound when most stores sell it at $.79 a pound. And since they were buying in bulk they should have gotten it even cheaper than that. You think FoodNet would have paid $1.51 a pound? Absolutely not.

Look, I believe any program that can stand on its own should stand on its own. But if there is a program that adds to the culture of the area and it needs a little help from government, then it should get that help. Or if we think a social problem, like adult illiteracy, needs to be addressed, then why not fund VITA instead of creating a bureaucracy using twice the money with a quarter of the effectiveness. That seems like the smart, conservative thing to do.

But no. Some people just see government spending and take the knee-jerk reaction that it must be bad. And probably 90% of the time, I would agree with that. I just want a little common sense to be injected into the mix.

All the best,

Soop
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written by Ciano Leal , August 03, 2009 - 02:14 am
To Boomtown,
I know your finance is involved with a few NGOs and you recieve a federal and state allowance/check as does your financee, he also should obtain a job . He could enter into politics / start with hands-on experience at Pet Smart; Start by learning what the price of fish food and bird seed ,excellent start if you want entrance to the LYPA This has been a start point for some illustrious , Local Yokels .
politicos

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