News -> News WED, APR 27 12:00AM by Jeremy Alford

Until Debt Do Us Part

newsWednesday, April 27, 2011

FEC filings show that Louisiana’s ‘fiscally conservative’ congressional delegation has been spending like a sailor on shore leave, and in some cases running a deficit. By Jeremy Alford

If Potomac politics exists in a world fueled by influence, access and information, then cash money would definitely serve as that world’s naturally occurring source of gravity, providing weight to objects with certain density, otherwise known as congressmen. Thankfully, members of the U.S. House have to report their campaign finance information on a quarterly basis to the Federal Election Commission, like they did last week.

The reports cover contributions, lines of campaign credit, expenses and a handful of other financial odds and ends from the period spanning Jan. 1 to March 31.
And here are the only five things worth knowing:

1) Redistricting was expensive: Redistricting was the political civil war of the decade, sharply dividing north Louisiana lawmakers from those in the south. Most of the tension was created by the requirement that the state eliminate one of its seven congressional seats.

GOP members of the U.S. House delegation took an early, unified stance, beginning with a group dinner Jan. 19 at Hunan Dynasty on Capitol Hill, a meal the campaign of Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-Quitman, underwrote for $600. Alexander is also the dean of the delegation.

Additionally, Rep. Bill Cassidy, R-Baton Rouge, spent $4,000 for a “redistricting report” from the Lafayette-based Caid Group a couple of weeks before the dinner meeting. Most of the delegation’s other members did the same. Boustany spent $8,000 with the Caid Group, as did Alexander. Rep. Steve Scalise, R-Metairie, shelled out $4,000 in early January.

That’s $24,000 for the Caid Group in the months preceding the Louisiana Legislature’s special redistricting session. According to the Louisiana Secretary of State’s corporate database, the company lists as its agent John W. Sutherlin, who is also currently employed as a political science professor at UL Monroe.

Sources familiar with the inner workings of the relationship say Sutherlin relied on other employees from ULM as well to provide services to the congressmen and to state Sen. Robert Kostelka, R-Monroe, who chairs the Senate’s lead redistricting committee.

2) Cassidy has the biggest bank: When it comes to campaign kitties that really purr, look no further than Cassidy. He has more than $1 million in the bank, exceeding the tallies of all other U.S. House members from Louisiana.

During the last quarter, Rep. John Fleming, R-Shreveport, raised the most loot, nearly $350,000. But he had only $303,000 in the bank. The closest to Cassidy is Boustany, who has $694,000 cash on hand; then Scalise with $480,000; freshman Rep. Jeff Landry, R-New Iberia, $171,000; fellow rookie Rep. Cedric Richmond, D-New Orleans, $87,000; and Alexander the dean trailing far behind with only $35,000.

Cassidy’s campaign spent $48,500 during the past three months as well. Notably, there were more than $6,000 in travel reimbursements made to the congressman and his wife and a $290 payment attributed to “babysitting for GOP retreat.” Alexander’s campaign likewise doled out $5,800 in travel reimbursements to the married couple at the top.

3) Buying conservative creds: Anyone can do it. Just ask Landry, who is slated to face Boustany in Louisiana’s newly drawn 3rd Congressional District in 2012. He made a whopping $5,000 donation earlier this year to the Fund for Self Government, which is connected to a group that prepares “young people for leadership, teaching them the ideas of freedom and a free-market economy.” It could go a long way in helping Landry keep his tea party followers faithful.

Fleming also seems to know a thing or two about purchasing conservative creds — just check out his $1,000 media buy on the Moon Griffon Show.

4) Campaign money is good eats: Scalise recently footed the bill for a $3,000 dinner at Galatoire’s. That’s equivalent to roughly 333 duck crepes. He also gave $5,000 to the National Republican Congressional Committee, but they don’t make momma-slappin’ grits.

5) Debt is very real in campaigns: They may preach and hem and haw about being fiscal conservatives, but the truth is many members of Congress operate campaigns that are seriously in the red.

Even though Richmond, who considers himself a “fiscal conservative,” spent more than $32,000 on consultants and $2,000 with Deep South Investigations of Gretna during the last quarter, and despite raising $165,000, his campaign is carrying $208,000 worth of debt. About $59,000 is due to vendors and companies that serviced his 2010 campaign — something not often seen in these reports. Another $149,000 represents loans he personally made — a more common occurrence.

Alexander’s campaign has $15,000 in debt owed to the candidate, although $10,000 was paid off this past quarter. Landry collected $4,200 from his campaign this cycle but is still owed $38,000.

All reports can be viewed at http://www.fec.gov/.

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Comments (39)add
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written by Yosemite Sam , April 27, 2011 - 05:44 pm
You make it sound bad but campaign funds are not public funds. Also, I would not be surprised to find similar spending nation wide. And besides, if a official wants to loan personal funds, so what.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , April 27, 2011 - 10:58 pm
I told you before, listen to what the republican's say, and then watch what they do.

They never said that they wanted to cut medicare, medicaid, and social security, but look at what they are actually doing.

Look across the nation at how they are taking away the freedom of americans.

Republican's in Louisiana is spending and giving the money away to the rich people so that they can say "see, we're broke, lets cut education and teacher's firefighter's, public employee's, pension benefits-and let's cut medicare".

Remember, when the peasants get wind of the republican big lie, they will grab their pitchforks and torches and chase them out of office.

You can quote me on that.
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written by NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN , April 28, 2011 - 01:55 pm
If you have not made a mental deducement to arrive at the factual side of this picture, and you don't understand that the democratics and the republicans are "ONE & the SAME, you are way behind in this game Laf. Native. Don't you understand that the independants/libertine's and all other yahoo's are paid detractors to keep couillions like you in the dark, Gah, they got easy pickins, the fruit be hangin low with an abundance of "SAP/SAP'S......Yipee, I gots it right. It ain't that, I'm different. I'm just always "Right !

Oh, Mr. Alford very copecetic, and copious factual reporting, thank you.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , April 28, 2011 - 02:28 pm
NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN,

Remember, when the peasants get wind of the republican big lie, they will grab their pitchforks and torches and chase them out of office.


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written by ragin_cajun , April 28, 2011 - 03:39 pm
Mr. Alford --

I would like to see similar analysis of the campaign finance records of the Landrieu's, or Charlie Melancon, or Cedric Richmond. Why are their campaign finance indiscretions omitted?

Mary Landrieu also claims to be "fiscally conservative". I'm sure Richmond would say he is, too.

Clearly biased reporting.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , April 28, 2011 - 04:31 pm
r.c., if you are so concern about equity, why isn't your hair on fire about paul ryan trying to kill medicare. Or the freedom that's being taken away from people in mi,wi,and elsewhere. And what about Vitter using women for whores.


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written by Docy B , April 28, 2011 - 04:53 pm
LNRIC, Ragin Cajun don't need medicare, he is rich enough. As far as freedom go, Ragin Cajun understands that freedom is the exclusive privillege for the rich to enjoy.
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written by ragin_cajun , April 28, 2011 - 11:30 pm
I'm actually NOT concerned about equity. I'm pointing out biased reporting. That's the problem with you, on particular, and leftists in general...you have real problems with focused rational thought. You prefer meandering stream of conciousness type thinking that flits from one topic to another like one of those rubber bounceballs the kids play with. So let's try and pick one single topic, and discuss that topic only. You pick one, state a position, I will respond. Then you respond to my response without changing the subject. This is how reasoned discourse works. You don't have to change your beliefs, abandon your ideals, or call anyone a racist. It's very simple--I know you can do it. I actually BELIEVE in you, native.
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written by ragin_cajun , April 29, 2011 - 12:14 am
Docy--

You're sniveling. Quit whining, pick your head up, "man up" as the saying goes...:).
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , April 29, 2011 - 02:58 am
ragin_cajun:

My lucid posting was not published! I had dealt with your "bias" Republican perspective.

By the way, I found a good Babylonian treatise for you to read: "Israel in Exile: The History and Literature of the Sixth Century B.C.E." (2003) by the German scholar, Rainer Albertz [translated into English by David Green]. It's on-line---all 462 pages of it! It is brilliant!!!
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , April 29, 2011 - 02:12 pm
ragin_cajun,

I realize that it is painfull for you to see what the republican's are doing to this country, killing medicare, placing granny at the mercy of big insurance cartels in order to give trillions to big oil and the rich.

I know it agitates you to see how the republican governors in Mi,and Ohio is scraping democracy by putting a dictator in charge of cities under his Mubarak, Aasad,Hitler state of emergency.

So, I won't further torture you with the reality of the mess that your republican freak show party of nutbags is causing across the country.

Remember what I said about the peasants grabbing their pitchforks and torches.

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written by Docy B , April 29, 2011 - 02:53 pm
written by ragin_cajun , April 28, 2011
Docy--
You're sniveling. Quit whining, pick your head up, "man up" as the saying goes...:).

Boy oh boy! Reality must cut through you like a knife.

LNRC is spot on, again. People are finally catching on to what LNRC calls the republican big lie.

Sorry I can't man up. Its probably because I am female. I see you taking a phrase from that renoun imbecil, sarah palin.

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written by ragin_cajun , April 29, 2011 - 06:37 pm
The only person I've seen cut Medicare funding recently is Obama and the Democrats in Congress. But that's OK, I guess, when THEY do it?

The "republican freak show" is mild compared to the REAL freak show in this country -- the Demmocrats. Let's run down a few of THEIR freaks for the sake of balance and perspective, which is what my original posting was all about anyway. Let's see...

Maxine Waters who publicly stated that it may be time to nationalize the oil industry in America.

John Kerry who never met a tax increase he didn't like, yet doesn't pay his own taxes.

Chris Dodd...red-faced tax cheat who got caught taking preferential "loans" from Countrywide.

Byron Dorgan the vitamin nut...

David Bonior...

Bill Ayers...

The Squadron of race hustling "civil rights activists"...Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Farrakhan, and the horde of democratic fundraisers in small black community churches across the country--euphamistically called preachers. Jeremiah Wright is a good example. I don't want to hear anymore about Republicans' Religious Right wackos when the Democratic Party is more active in churches by far. I don't want to hear any more about racist anybody when Sharpton, Farrakhan, Jackson, and every preacher Obama ever met regularly and consistently spew OVERTLY racist venom. I don't want to hear about the right using racist "code words"...there's nothing code about "hymie town".

Obama's cabinet/czars/assistants is a REAL freakshow. Let's look at....

Cass Sunstein, Steven Chu, Elizabeth Warren, Lisa Jackson--these people all seem perfectly reasonable, if you're a member of the International Socialists' Organization, or if you like to attend rallies and speaking events with Van Jones.

But, hey, I don't want to imply that anybody's a Socialist..because that's really a "code word" for racism. So let me get back to the pre-Obama Democratic Party freaks out there so I won't offend anybody's delicate sensibilities....

How bout little Tom Daschle, who also loves raising taxes but won't actually pay taxes...

How's Hillary Clinton for "renoun imbecil"--I always love seeing someone call someone else an imbecile, and then misspell the word. But in your case Docy, you misspelled the word BEFORE imbecile, TOO! That's just priceless...

And for the grand finale of Freaks, Native...how bout the horniest, freakiest one of all....and it's not Barney Frank.....Bill Clinton.

You may think it doesn't matter what a person does in the bedroom, and I'd agree with that. But Bill was being a freak in Oval Office, with a girl young enough to be his daughter, and then lied about it and was impeached.

Maybe the reason people vote for Republicans is because although they have alot of problems, too...they at least look a little more professional.

I was gonna stop there, but it's just too fun. I'll go a few more...

How about the human quote machine, Joe Biden.

John Corzine....Wall Street Insider and famous liberal.

Tim Geithner...another tax cheat...

Enough of tax cheats, though...let's all take a moment to remeber a WELFARE cheat...Carol Moseley Braun.

How about Al Franken...surely you liberals HAVE to hang your head over THAT one...shrill, irrational, and even more unqualified for the job than Obama...a comedian!


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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , April 29, 2011 - 07:17 pm
r.c., you forgot Charlie Rangel. You should wash your mouth with soap for speaking ill of Van Jones.

How was that royal wedding. I know you were there because, after all, you worship the crown. I know you worship at the alter of the rich because that's what you want for this country-rich people rule.

I am furious that you would take issue with Bill for snaring him a cute young thang to blow his whistle. Remember, it was Clinton who repaired this nation and left that highly intelligent Bush a surplus.

BTW, how is that drill baby drill working for you guys at the gas pump.
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written by Docy B , April 29, 2011 - 07:27 pm
Ragin Cajun,

There is a common thread among all of the people that you reference. It is that all of these people, except for Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Braun, are extremely intelligent, Americans who have the interest of the middle class and the poor at heart.

These people do not believe in giving the rich everything or balancing the budget on the backs of the poor.

LNRC has his little saying about peasants and pitchforks, and I agree, wholeheartedly.

You're on the wrong side of history, and humanity, Ragin Cajun.
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written by ragin_cajun , April 29, 2011 - 07:57 pm
I have tried VERY hard to not attack people, but positions and ideas. So let me just add a little more to my earlier comment by stating my objection to the IDEAS that all these named leftists promote--as well as Native and Docy.
Their ideas are all varying shades of Socialism. Socialism is defined as the public or common ownership of wealth, or the means of production, and cooperative management of it. That's what Democrats, Leftists, Obama, Native, and Docy believe in. Call me racist if you want to, Native, but that's the plain truth.
The problem with this collective, or cooperative, management of things is that it doesn't work. I've pasted a link below to an article by a lifelong Socialist economist that outlines the reasons why.....and for the layman, GCM. So any reasonable person can read and understand it.
Everyone who has tried to have an economy with no competition, or profit motive, has failed miserably. Bureaucrats, or politicians, don't make good decisions because they don't have to. Decisions come back to haunt them later. It takes an entrepreneur with a profit motive to make the decisions necessary to run something efficiently. Collectives mess it up everytime. They can't allocate resources, and they can't receive or respond to "pricing signals".
Socialist economies stagnate, shrink, and lower the standard of living for eveyone, and eventually the lifespan. And the poor feel it first and worst in Socialist Utopias just like they do in mean old America.
Now if you guys (Docy and Native, and probably GCM though it's hard to tell WHAT he thinks from his writing) want to attack 'the rich', and have public solutions to personal problems, that's fine. But let's all be perfectly clear about the alternative that you would institute by destroying incentive, initiative, profit motive, and individual freedom. The alternative you all support is central control, central command, collective management of the economy, and it has never worked anywhere it has been tried.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Socialism.html
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written by ragin_cajun , April 29, 2011 - 08:00 pm
Native --

"you forgot Charlie Rangel"

And YOU forgot to call ME a racist. I guess we're both getting slow in our old age.
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written by ragin_cajun , April 29, 2011 - 08:17 pm
Native --

"BTW, how is that drill baby drill working for you guys at the gas pump."

Well, let's see someone actually institute the policy, and maybe gas prices wouldn't be so high. Unfortunately, your guys have decided that government control over energy prices and drilling moratoria are the preferred course of action. They actually instituted a policy that seeks to purposely raise gas prices so that alternative fuels would be more acceptable. The idiots even said they wanted to do it.

http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html

That is Socialism. Pure and simple. Get a clue, Native.
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written by ragin_cajun , April 29, 2011 - 09:49 pm
"all of these people, except for Sharpton, Farrakhan, and Braun, are extremely intelligent, Americans who have the interest of the middle class and the poor at heart. "

Stunningly ignorant statement. It's true, Docy. A leftist really will say anything to win an argument. And DO anything to anyone to bring about "equity".

So tell me, Docy. When you say "the rich", who exactly do you mean? Can you define your terms, please? Just so I'll know whether my wife and kids will be safe when the peasants rise up with their pitchforks. What's the number on the W2 form that makes one part of the global conspiracy of "the rich" to keep the "poor and middle class" down?

Is it an amount in earnings that constitutes "rich"? Or is it any business owner? Is it all those with a bachelor's degree or higher education who are "exploiting the working class"?

Elaborate.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , April 29, 2011 - 10:15 pm
written by ragin_cajun , April 29, 2011
Socialism is defined as the public or common ownership of wealth, or the means of production, and cooperative management of it.

I am going to speak for myself, Docy B as well as, GCM.

If your definition above is what was happenning now in this country, or in the future, we would share your fear. That is not what is going on in this country.

Speaking for myself, I urge you to please stop getting your information from fox news. My good friend ragin, your race hate is tearing you apart.

You remind me of those old poor whites in the neighborhood,who, with barley a good tooth in their mouth, chawing snuff in a rocking chair, on a broken front porch and a rodent infested shack, with no running water or electricity, remeniscing about the good old days when segregation and hate was law.

Take some pepto to help dilute that battery acid thats eating you inside out.
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written by Docy B , April 29, 2011 - 11:27 pm
written by ragin_cajun , April 29, 2011
So tell me, Docy. When you say "the rich", who exactly do you mean?

The rich are people like The Koch family, Exxon,Chevron, Wall Street, and people like that. People who make 500k and above should pay 1.5% into medicare on all income. And, they should be means tested for social security and medicare.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 01, 2011 - 10:37 pm
I agree with Docy B's answer to r.c..

I speak for myself and ragin cajun when I say that we need to tax these upper income folks in order to both pay down the deficit (which they caused)and fund government.
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written by ragin_cajun , May 01, 2011 - 10:53 pm
Yeah, means testing is a great idea. So why have all those Democrats who "have the best interests of the poor and middle class" at heart consistently voted AGAINST every Republican effort to means test SS and Medicare programs for years now?

http://www.lvrj.com/news/42378482.html

This article gives one reason. Another reason I've heard is that lib's don't want anyone to have to submit to the embarrassment of being deemed "poor" enough to get the benefits. Some say it's because lib's protect the rich more than
Republicans do. Fact is, it's YOUR guys that prevent means testing.
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written by ragin_cajun , May 01, 2011 - 10:53 pm
Yeah, means testing is a great idea. So why have all those Democrats who "have the best interests of the poor and middle class" at heart consistently voted AGAINST every Republican effort to means test SS and Medicare programs for years now?

http://www.lvrj.com/news/42378482.html

This article gives one reason. Another reason I've heard is that lib's don't want anyone to have to submit to the embarrassment of being deemed "poor" enough to get the benefits. Some say it's because lib's protect the rich more than
Republicans do. Fact is, it's YOUR guys that prevent means testing.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 02, 2011 - 02:02 pm
Bin laden is dead. r.c., this is the mark of a compentent leader. We are in the first year of a new decade of bush's war of incompentence.

Obama is the quintecential leader. A man of the people. A protector of the nation. Indeed, a real commander in chief.

What say you, r.c.. What say you.
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written by ragin_cajun , May 02, 2011 - 02:27 pm
I am very glad that Obama had the "sand" to give the orders and green light this operation. I am even MORE glad that America still has men in the Navy who will go anywhere and achieve under any circumstances. Those men are the ones who truly deserve the credit for this, Native. That's what I say.

As for your remark about Bush's war....I don't know that I agree that we should still have troops all over the Mid-East 10 years later.

BUT....let's all think back to Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld's repeated predictions that stable democratic governments in the Mid-East with free elections and free people would "transfrom the region", would induce a "wave of democracy across the region". That is exactly what is happening today, and I have yet to hear anyone give a scintilla of respect or credit to Bush for that. He was right, and most of us thought he was wrong when he predicted all this.

I WILL say this for Obama. It cannot have been easy for him to maintain and even escalate the wars in the Mid-East when most of his "base" is rabidly anti-war. He did it anyway, so I suppose he thought it was important to have continuity in American foreign policy.

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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 02, 2011 - 02:56 pm
r.c., Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, took what should have been a 90 day war to kill this mudering clown, bin laden, at toro boro, and turned it into 11 years of war,and counting, with thousands of americans dead, missing from their family's dinner table and trillions in tax dollars.

That rising up which is going on in the mid east has nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with Obama's speech in the mid east which called on the people to assert their rights.

Good thing Bush was not in charge during the Libya and Iran uprising cause we would have boots on the ground in five mid east nations.

Finally, it is Obama that told President Zardari of Pakistan that the US will fly drones over Pakistan and that no Pakistani objection would stop him.

I told you time and again that Obama will get bin laden. Obama's extreme intellect and steady hand is what this country need.

Palin, Mccain, how is that 3 oclock phone call workin for you. Imagine if these two clowns were in office.
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written by ragin_cajun , May 02, 2011 - 07:21 pm
I would agree that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld botched the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in some ways. I DEFINITELY don't like that American troops are still in both countries a decade later.

The uprising in the Mid-East is because of Obama's speech? That's just ridiculous. I think you have WAY too high an opinion of the words of politicians. You must be one.

"Good thing Bush was not in charge during the Libya and Iran uprising " You're probably right about that, and I agree with you.

"Obama that told President Zardari of Pakistan that the US will fly drones over Pakistan and that no Pakistani objection would stop him. " The US was flying drones over Pakistan when Obama was a freshman Senator IN ILLINOIS. Drones were over Pakistan BEFORE Obama was elected to US Senate, while he was campaigning to become US Senator, and while he was campaigning to become US President. Obama continued the strategy that Bush/Cheney started in Pakistan.

Also, I just can't resist asking....was Obama for drone attacks AFTER he was against drone attacks? It's so hard to tell with him what he believes in, he's all over the map on this issue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/13/obama-objects-to-expanded_n_390330.html
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 02, 2011 - 08:20 pm
r.c., once you start referencing left wing sources like The Huffington Post, you've lost the argument as a right wingnut tea party racist.

Bush did do a few drone missions years after he let bin laden escape to toro boro so he can veer off to Iraq. Musharrif insisted that Bush notify him each time a mission was flown and/or a bomb was dropped.

Obama basically told Pakistan to f*&^ off. He took control and used SMART POWER to get that piece of s#$^, bin laden.

Remember that 3am phone call that sister sara palin and that little confused nut, mccain used to scare everybody.

That little nutty boy, Trump and the rest of those clowns have no clue of what real leadership is, or how to project it.

When the peasants get wind of the republican's big lie....

!!SMART POWER ROCKS!!
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written by ragin_cajun , May 02, 2011 - 09:24 pm
Native --

What? The Huffington Post isn't a credible source for information about Obama's policies? Then tell me what source you think IS credible, and I'll see if I can't find an article from THEM that says the same thing. Shouldn't be too hard.

You're uninformed. Palin/McCain didn't use the 3AM phone call ad, it was Hillary Clinton.

And you've now repeated that I'm a racist, TEA Party is racist, Obama is great. You forgot to repeat that Vitter like whores.

So now, what? You want to change the subject to something else? Call me a racist again? You're like a broken record.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 02, 2011 - 10:09 pm
Love you,r.c. Your willful ignorance is depressing. For sources on Obama, why don't you consult MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC. Use the FOX FAKE NEWS BLONDE MODELS as your viagra.

I know your wife will be voting for Obama. She recognizes a real leader.

!!SMART POWER ROCKS!!
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written by ragin_cajun , May 03, 2011 - 02:04 pm
Okay, here's one from CNN saying that Obama's drone attacks are a continuation of Bush Policy.

http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/04/obama-administrations-greater-use-of-drones-goes-back-to-bush-era/?iref=allsearch

So go ahead and change the subject now. Or call me a racist again. It's been 2 or 3 responses from you since you've brought up Vitter again, how about that?
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 03, 2011 - 03:40 pm
I never said that Bush did not do drone strikes in Pakistan. Bush did not do drones in Pakistan until late 2008. Remember, bin laden has been in Pakistan since at least 2002, and we know for a fact that he was definitely in Pakistan since 2005, when he built his mansion.

My point is that Obama's dron strikes in 2010 totaled 166, which is 300% more than Bush. And Obama's is more focused than Bush.

Bottom line is that under Obama, the intelligence apparatus is being given to and intelligent Commander in Chief. A professor, a scholar, a deep thinker and problem solver-Obama is.

Under Bush, the intelligence apparatus was being given to an imbecile, a clown, a man of shallow intelligence, a man (who like Palin, hadn't read a book). That's who Bush is.
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written by ragin_cajun , May 03, 2011 - 05:05 pm
You're about as well informed about the wars in the Mid-East as you are about domestic politics and the "3AM call". Maybe you should start watching Fox News so you'd know what the hell is going on.

Here's a few corrections for you, Native....

Hilllary Clinton came up with the 3AM call commercial in the Democratic Primary campaign against Obama--Do you know what a "Democratic Primary" means?

Like I've already explained in a post above, there's been Drone Strikes in Pakistan since 2004. There were unarmed drones flying around in Pakistan and Afghanistan before then. That puts Obama in the Illinois state house when Bush was ordering/approving the first UAV missions in the Mid-East. UAV means "Unmanned Aerial Vehicle", which is what they used to call the drones in the press. At first, the UAV's were unarmed, then they started fitting them with Hellfire missiles and mass producing them. Obama was a state senator before he ran for US Senate, then for US President. George W. Bush was President from 2001-2009.

Listen man, if you want to continue having these conversations, then you'll need to read a little more and get some basic facts straight. It's too much typing for me to give you all the background info you need to argue with me about all this.

Better yet, why don't you just stick to calling me a racist and screeching about Fox News, Vitter, and the TEA Party. That's easier for you, probably better suited to your intellect.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 03, 2011 - 07:47 pm
There you go again r.c. citing news reports form the glen beck sean hannity freak show. Dana Perina and those other blondes on fox fake news are are not reliable sources.

Everything that Bush did, including the dismisal of the PDB, was the result of the supreme court turning over our government and it's security to one of the most incompentent human beings that this country has ever had as commander in chief.

Your argument that Bush somehow deserve credit for this clowns death is simply revisionist history reinforced by people like lynn cheney, andy card, rove, and the rest of that gang who was not compentent of to organize even a trip to the bathroom.

Next thing you're going to say is that tortuing all of those people somehow led to the intelligence that killed that a$&hole

!!SMART POWER ROCKS!!
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written by ragin_cajun , May 03, 2011 - 09:38 pm
Like I said, why don't you just stick to screeching and calling everybody racists. Leave the serious discussion of these issues to those of us who can think clearly, read what's being written, stay on topic.

If you'll look at the link I posted above, you'll see "cnn.com" in it. That means that it comes from CNN's website, which is one of the ones that YOU said YOU thought was credible. You wrote "For sources on Obama, why don't you consult MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC.". So that's what I did.

Instead of reading what I wrote, and thinking about it, and then responding, you decided to repeat one of the 5 things you always say no matter what is written. "fox fake news". You're pathetic.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 03, 2011 - 10:17 pm
r.c.,r.c.,r.c., I know that it is painfull for you to see your republican party dissolve like an ice cube in the dessert. The republican big lie is more and more, as each day goes by,becoming crystal clear in normal right thinking white america.

We are still living in that nightmare that George Bush and the republican's created but soon Obama will put it behind us when he ends those wars that Bush started.

The next republican president is slated to be sworn in sometime after 2045.

The breadth and depth of the disaster that your kind has wrought within these borders is equal to the disaster ya'll caused abroad.

The circus clown show, of which you are a ticket carrying member, is no longer the hottest game in town.

!!SMART POWER ROCKS!!
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written by Docy B , May 03, 2011 - 11:55 pm
President Obama just announced that he is appointing Former President Bush as Secretary of Education.
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written by LAFAYETTE NATIVE RESIDING IN CA , May 04, 2011 - 06:37 pm
NEWS FLASH!!

It cost the United States $190,477 to capture and kill bin laden.

We look forward to receiving a check from the Bush administration for the 1.5 trillion of wasted treasure that they squanderd.

!!SMART POWER ROCKS!!
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