Over the past 13 months, Lafayette Consolidated Government has been leasing vacant retail space in the Acadian Village Shopping Center on West Pinhook Road. Slated to house both a customer service call center and retail showroom for Lafayette Utilities System and its fiber-to-the-home business, today the 10,240-square-foot space is an empty shell. A few sections of leftover carpeting and some florescent light fixtures are all that remain from the building’s former tenant, Fashion Warehouse, which moved out last year. A door-sized display on wheels showing a utility meter and cable box hookup against a painted brick backdrop is parked in the front corner of the shop — the only evidence of its new tenant’s presence.
To date, local government has spent nearly a quarter of a million dollars leasing the property. Meanwhile, LUS is still finalizing its architectural plans for renovating and utilizing the space. Are public tax dollars going to waste? Not according to LUS Director Terry Huval, who vigorously defends the expense. City-Parish President Joey Durel did not return a call for comment.
Huval says the property was leased last year as the public utility was working toward its then-stated goal of rolling out its fiber-to-the-home business in January 2009 (because of delays, the project did not end up launching until February). He maintains that the public utility needed to secure a space well in advance to allow time to follow public bid law in hiring a contractor to make any necessary renovations. “We knew we were going to need a good retail presence,” says Huval, adding that location and price were other key factors in making the decision.
LUS hired a real estate agent, Flo Meadows of Coldwell Banker, and began scouting properties. At that time, Meadows says, good mid-sized retail properties were hard to come by. “Given their search parameters, we had two properties to consider,” she says. The two properties were the Fashion Warehouse building in the Acadian Village Shopping Center along the corner of West Pinhook and Kaliste Saloom roads and a portion of the old Academy building in the Grand Marche shopping center at Johnston Street and Camellia Boulevard. While the Grand Marche building was priced at a lower rate ($10 a square foot), it was a much larger space which would have also required extensive renovation work. Ultimately, Meadows says the Pinhook Road location ultimately won out due to its higher visibility (the Grand Marche spot did not directly face Johnston Street) and closer proximity to LUS’ other facilities.
“At the time we were looking at a very different economy than what we have today,” Huval says. “All these properties were going pretty fast at that particular time, and this was the lowest cost option we had available to us. We didn’t have a lot of time to make a decision.”
The Fashion Warehouse property had recently come on the market, and Huval says it was too good a deal to pass up, even though the public utility was not ready to move in. “It was a choice between doing that or perhaps having to lease a more expensive piece of property later on. So the idea was to capture something that was affordable,” he says. “Our plans are to be there for a while.”
A search of commercial property listings shows that other properties were — and still are — available had LUS been willing to compromise on some criteria. The former Just for Feet store on Johnston Street near the mall is a 17,745 square foot building priced at $10 a square foot. A 24,000-square-foot building in the Ambassador Row Shopping Center also is priced at $10 a square foot and the former Durel’s Pet Store (real estate the city-parish president does not own) on Ambassador Caffery Parkway has 7,000 square feet of space priced at $12 a square foot. In general, retail space in this size range in the city tends to lease for $10 per square foot to as much as $24 a square foot in River Ranch.
Huval contends all of these properties had their issues, including size, location and extensive renovation costs, that caused LUS to pass on them in favor of the Acadian Village location, which is located between Crazy Charlie’s Shoes and Centennial Wireless. LCG signed a five-year lease on the property, commencing March 3, 2008, and running through Feb. 28, 2013. According to the lease, which was recorded in the parish courthouse March 11, 2008, city-parish government pays rent up front on an annual basis. Rent for the first year was $92,160, then went up to $122,880 beginning this year through the remainder of the lease. The city also is charged an annual Common Area Maintenance fee at a rate of 65 cents per square foot, or $6,656 a year. To date, those costs total $228,352. The lease was signed by the property’s owner, Scott Gordon of Gordon Investments and Durel. The lease was approved by the Lafayette City-Parish Council.
After the property was secured, the city enlisted Architects Southwest (Durel chose the architect based on recommendations from the council’s professional services committee) to draw up renovation plans for the space. The renovations will require installing new handicap accessible bathrooms and office space. Last summer — when construction costs were at a premium — Architects Southwest brought back estimates for the renovation work in the $1.5 million range, a price Huval says was too costly. As the launch date neared for the fiber project, LUS re-evaluated its plans, opting to locate its initial fiber-to-the-home customer service center alongside its utilities office at City Hall. This bought time to plan for a more cost-effective way to utilize the storefront on Pinhook Road.
LUS now plans to provide customer service for both its fiber business and its utilities business out of the Pinhook space. A call center will handle customers over the phone, while other reps will be standing by to service walk-in customers. In addition, Huval says the store will double as a floor room for LUS fiber, with computers and widescreen TVs showcasing LUS’ cable and high-speed Internet service. “We’ll have the facilities necessary for customers to be able to actually test the system,” Huval says. He now hopes to open the center this fall.
Because the location will now be used for both the utilities and telecommunications divisions, LUS will have to carefully tally and divide costs. The 2005 Local Government Fair Competition Act — a bill passed by the state Legislature enabling LUS’ fiber venture — prevents LUS from sharing any costs between its utilities and telecommunications operations.
While Huval says LUS does have some new preliminary plans for its renovations to the space, he declined to provide those to The Independent.
“I’m not releasing that yet,” he says. “That’s still something that we’re going through now, so I’m not going to put something out there that’s going to end up changing.”
Huval adds he is confident that in the long run, LUS’ decision to lock down its retail space at the time that it did will prove to be the right one. “After all the smoke is cleared,” he says. “I think we’re going to end up saving far more [money] than the extra rental payment by virtue of doing this.”
... written by Cream of Steam , April 29, 2009 - 03:14 pm
Good government at work!
Can we deduct the rent from Terry's paycheck? This may be the first in a series of Fiber boo-boos.
God, I love it when government goes into business, they do such a great job.
... written by John John , April 29, 2009 - 03:26 pm
Typical political old boy's deal...previous rate at this location was in the $6.00 - $7.00 per square foot rate...how much true due diligence did LUS do?
... written by John John , April 29, 2009 - 04:54 pm
Upon further review if the remodeling cost to LUS is $1.5 Million or $146.50 per SF, LUS could build their own 10,240 SF building for that amount.
... written by Voodoo science , April 29, 2009 - 09:11 pm
The first fiber boo boo? You must be counting by 1000. Terry should be a snake oil salesman.
... written by Kevin S , April 29, 2009 - 09:25 pm
Yea it is unfortunate that LUS could get something lower cost but I know several Buisnesses that locked in rates for goods and services in mid-2008 thinking that things would keep going up. Now they are stuck with something that they can get for 30% off today. It can happen to any one and it is called a risk. Hind sight is 20/20. I bet if they would have passed on the property and things were worse (higher prices) the same folks that are crying fowl would still be crying.
... written by Soop , April 30, 2009 - 02:28 pm
We are in deep with Fiber so you/we might as well get on board. Although I will complain here, I am under no illusions the program is going anywhere and I will likely purchase when it comes to my area because if I am going to pay higher taxes and higher utility rates because of it, I might as well get my money's worth.
However, it has been interesting to see that many of the issues initially raised by Cox and BellSouth proved true. But at the time Cox and BS couldn't be trashed enough.
LUS was going to offer Fiber to the Home for $85.00 a month. Fiber has download speeds of up to 1000 Mbps. Cox and BS said it can't be done. True to their word, LUS has an $85 plan ... that gets you 10 Mbps download speeds. For $199 a month you can get 50 Mbps. Same speeds you can get from Cox on its premium service.
The LUS response is "well people don't really need more than 50 Mbps." True. But, to lay a little more truth on ya, most people really don't need more bandwidth than they were getting on copper lines! Yet here we are burying Fiber all over the city at Lord only knows the cost.
Upset over this empty space on Pinhook? Hah! It's probably only the tip of the iceberg.
All the best,
Soop
... written by Terry Huval , May 01, 2009 - 12:21 am
I thank Nathan Stubbs for doing an even-handed story.
Every business has unexpected circumstances to deal with, and ours is no different. While we have saved many millions of dollars on other parts of this project, it certainly would have been better for us to be in the Pinhook location now, but the circumstances of the economy are what they are.
I am confident that when we move in, the overall savings we will incur for the build out of this facility will be much less than the lease costs during that period of time.
Concerning LUS services, "Soop" was not completely accurate in his comments about the prices of our services. True, LUS Fiber is offering an $85 fiber to the home package, but that package includes far more than 10 Mbps service alone. It includes video services with 83 channels plus local telephone services. Our $199 VIP Gold package with the 50 Mbps service also includes over 200 channels, plus a premium phone package with all the most popular features and free nationwide calling. The cost for Internet alone for 10 Mbps is $28.95 and for 50 Mbps is W.95.
All LUS Fiber Internet services have the same bandwidth for uploads as they do for downloads. They also include free 100 Mbps peer-to-peer connectivity. No other provider offers anything close to this much speed.
LUS has never said that people don't need more than 50 Mbps. In fact, LUS Fiber will provide any a bandwidth speed a customer wants to buy. Our maximum standard service offering for businesses is 100 Mbps for $199.99.
... written by fiber won..U lose , May 01, 2009 - 03:13 am
This can't be the same LUS that receives high accolades for "not being part of city government" as many pro fiber advocates used to tell us.
... written by Soop , May 01, 2009 - 01:16 pm
Thank you for the info, Mr. Huval. I omitted that the Fiber was part of the triple play only because I thought that was obvious. The "triple play" was always how it was discussed. I did not even know you could buy the internet service separately, so I still learn something new every day. My apologies for any confusion.
Plus, I don't think the Fiber to the home initiative really focused on the TV or phone side since those didn't depend on Fiber. In fact, truth be told, I believe for most people, fiber to the phone and fiber to the tube has to be converted back to copper to fit most standard phones and televisions.
Back to the point, if Fiber can handle 1000 Mbps, even if LUS is gracious enough to let you buy 100 Mbps, you are still at only 10% of capacity. And the cost for that, without any triple play, is $199.00. Contrast that with what we were "sold" on .. Fiber to the Home at $85/mo (as part of the "triple play").
Oh, you thought it was "Fiber Speed to the Home?" I'm so sorry but that was your mistake, not ours. We only promised to bring fiber to your home. As long as it is a little faster than what you had before, then what are you complaining about?
It reminds me of those commercials now playing where a person walks up to a hot dog stand, buys a hot dog and the guy hands them the wiener. When they ask where the bun is he tells them he's not a bun salesman. "I sell what I say .. hot dogs."
I have to confess I don't remember what company made the commercial, but I do remember the tagline "Ever bought something and then realized it wasn't quite what you thought it would be?"
I just hope we remember to ask more questions if Terry decides to start selling "Hot Dogs" out of that Pinhook location.
All the best,
Soop
... written by AnonTechie , May 01, 2009 - 09:16 pm
Soop,
Please go and stick your head back into the ground. This has to be one of the most uninformed post I have every read! You obviously have no experience in the IT (Information Technology) or Telecommunication fields.
If you truly want to be educated enough to make comments, I recommend you spend some time on the following websites. One of which is a national post that has no ties to Lafayette (the city) or anybody affliated with/or around Lafayette.
If it was not for LUS Fiber deployment, do you think COX would have chose Lafayette to launch the 1st DOCSIS 3.0 market under its control? Seriously.
Enjoy the reading and I, for one, wish LUS all the best.
... written by Soop , May 02, 2009 - 12:57 pm
Techie,
Sounds like you need to complain to LUS, not me. I'm using their terms like Mbps. If you want them to pimp latency, call them, not me.
Plus, in terms of latency, your graph shows a difference of 2 ms vs. 10 ms. For those who don't know, ms = milliseconds. MILLISECONDS!!! Did we really sink $250,000,000.00 and back it up with taxpayer dollar guarantees so you can play World of Warcraft 8 milliseconds faster?
Yes, I understand the argument that what we have is faster, so those of less informed should just shut the hell up. Got it. I even pointed out earlier that this is what we are often told. It's just not what we were sold.
All the best,
Soop
... written by Terry Huval , May 04, 2009 - 12:44 am
Soop,
I don't know where you are getting your information, but your allegations about what we said, or suggested, are simply not correct.
We never used the term $250 million in conjunction with the fiber project. The bond financing voted by the public was for $125 million, of which we bonded out $110 million. The $110 million is what it will take us to build fiber along every street in the city and serve the estimated 50% of the homes and businesses that choose to purchase our services.
While having major Internet capacity is the driving force behind fiber, we are offering the triple play of Video, Internet and Phone to provide the services that homes and business use today. The fiber service we proposed was always described as being to the wall of the home or business, where the optical fiber data stream will be converted to the electronic connections commonly used for Video, Internet and Phone. We always said that our initial deployment would operate in this way, as the protocols have not been established to connect fiber directly to home appliances.
We also never suggested our $85 triple play would provide 100 Mbps or more. We said the $85 product would provide video services of 70 channels are more (we actually are providing 83 channels in that package), local phone service and Internet speeds faster than our homes were experiencing. After the election, we said that we would work towards having 100 Mbps peer-to-peer capacity - which is a goal we have achieved.
If you have have any articles or quotes from us that say what you suggested they say, please share them with us.
Terry
... written by Soop , May 04, 2009 - 01:33 pm
Mr. Huval,
I'm on board baby! As soon as I can get the triple scoop services I will. However ....
as I said in a post above, it is not what WAS SAID it was what wasn't said. All we heard was fiber, fiber, fiber. $85 triple play, $85 triple play, $85 triple play. I never saw an asterisk on any of that. I never saw the signs that said "Pro Fiber -- Well, not really true Fiber speed but hey it's better than what you had." Was the info you cite buried away in some LUS material at the time? Probably so. Was it something highlighted by LUS? I surely don't think so.
Which leads right back to a post I made earlier which included a hypothetical response to my criticism: "Oh, you thought it was "Fiber Speed to the Home?" I'm so sorry but that was your mistake, not ours. We only promised to bring fiber to your home. As long as it is a little faster than what you had before, then what are you complaining about?"
I should have put hypothetical in quotes because what was your response regarding promises made ... "and Internet speeds faster than our homes were experiencing." Thanks for proving me wrong.
Set me straight on one more issue. I saw that $1.5M was too much. So, how much is LUS budgeting to renovate the Pinhook location? Will $1M cover it?
And isn't it nice that since you've obviously got cost overruns on the Pinhook fiasco, you can just move a few utilities employees over there and then shift a percentage of the overage to the utilities books instead of the fiber books? The utilities side has to bail out the fiber side. I guess we will make up those new costs on the utilities side of our monthly bills? Naw. Won't happen. I'm just being crazy, right?
All the best,
Soop
... written by AnonTechie , May 07, 2009 - 10:10 pm
Soop,
You are very predictable. Your response solidifies your lack of technical knowledge but yet not your nerve to push out spurious information. If you truly had any clue, you'd know how latency is not just "so you can play World of Warcraft 8 milliseconds faster?"
Latency has a direct effect on ALL services offered over an IP network. This would include TV, Voice, and ,yes, Internet. Voice being the most important of these involving latency. And before you comment again, (I'm being pre-emptive here), It's not just a 8ms delay in a conversation. Please, for the sake of those who would ever read this, do not waste people's time that they will never get back by reading your absurd post. I feel that I've wasted enough of my time.
... written by LUS_Lafayette_Made_ wrong_decisions , August 12, 2010 - 03:02 am
Nice job LUS…taking jobs out of Lafayette. We as tax payers paid for a huge expansion project for Lafayette and you shipped the jobs out of Lafayette and Louisiana. How can a project of this magnitude not go out for bid or be awarded to a non local company. As a taxpayer and avid supporter of your group, I was promised it would bring jobs and economic development to Lafayette. It kills me to see out of state license plates working and screwing up. Nice job Terry, Joey, of not supporting Lafayette and the businesses and people who supported LUS fiber. I would bet you that COX and ATT spend more money in Lafayette and Louisiana the out of state contractors you hired. Oh, and thanks for the Australian company you hired to do the license plate capture stop light cameras. I would love to know how much money from Lafayette, LA is paid to out of state contractors, businesses and others. Terry & Joey…pure Karma
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Can we deduct the rent from Terry's paycheck? This may be the first in a series of Fiber boo-boos.
God, I love it when government goes into business, they do such a great job.