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Fiber Follies

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David Isenberg (left) and Geoff Daily at last
spring’s FiberFête
Wednesday, December 8, 2010

With pressure from Cox Communications, Lafayette’s business community is reconsidering its support of FiberFete, and forcing the annual broadband summit to re-examine its identity.  By Nathan Stubbs

At the start of the year, FiberFête — an international broadband summit touting Lafayette’s emerging role as one of the most wired communities in the country — was still up on the drawing board. It wasn’t until February that organizers got the inaugural event’s financial commitments and budget finalized. But two months later, FiberFête was pulled together in impressive fashion. Despite the Iceland volcano preventing a half dozen international speakers from attending, the event still brought in more than 30 presenting speakers, some from the likes of Google, Cisco Systems, Harvard University, American Public Media and the city of Amsterdam, Holland. Guests represented several different nationalities and industries, but all shared a common interest in fiber-to-the-premise broadband networks, and the technological possibilities they present.

Unique in many ways, FiberFête billed itself as “an invitation-only conference to bring local leaders together with a wide variety of national and international Internet experts to discuss how communities like Lafayette can realize the greatest return on investment in their networks and explore how to drive economic development and enhance their community’s quality of life.” It also was a coming out party of sorts for LUS Fiber, Lafayette’s own recently launched fiber-to-the-home telecommunications network and business. “I honestly thought it was a huge success,” says John St. Julien, who sat on a community advisory committee for the event. “I got such a uniform read from everybody from sort of big business guys to funky guys who are advocating community empowerment like me, that I was surprised. I don’t necessarily think that we all thought it was good for the same reason, but I thought it was a big success legitimately.”

For event organizers and owners Geoff Daily and David Isenberg, the event proved what could be pulled off, even on short notice, with a united community front. The inaugural FiberFête got fundraising assistance from business leaders Clay Allen, Bill Fenstermaker and Matt Stuller; it ended up boasting 26 sponsors that read like a who’s who of area businesses: IberiaBank, Stone Energy, Whitney Bank, C.H. Fenstermaker & Associates, Stuller Inc., Fugro Chance, Lafayette General Medical Center, Acadian Companies and several others. The Greater Lafayette Chamber of Commerce, the Lafayette Economic Development Authority, LUS Fiber, Lafayette Consolidated Government and Lafayette Convention and Visitors Commission also signed on as sponsors. While Isenberg declined to comment on how much FiberFête cost to produce, sources close to the event say it was approximately $100,000, with sponsors ponying up as much as $5,000 each.

That coalition of the willing is now having second thoughts. As planning has gotten under way for FiberFête 2011, organizers have been getting a much more tepid response from the business community, raising questions about whether the event will continue annually as intended. Daily says FiberFête will now likely be pushed back to November in order to allow more time to adequately plan and present the latest local technology advancements for the event. “There’s no guarantees,” he says. “It’s our intent to have the event this year, next year and for the foreseeable future. Whether or not we’re able to actually do that will come down to what kind of buy-in we can get from the community and others.”
 
Though it’s only been seven months since the inaugural event, several factors have combined to dramatically alter the landscape for FiberFête. Much of the change involves the growth of LUS Fiber. Now offering its phone, cable and Internet service across the city, the competitive tension between LUS and chief rival Cox Communications is peaking. Meanwhile, enthusiasm for LUS has waned in the prolonged rollout since a 2005 election victory green-lighted the initiative. And because FiberFête is viewed by some as a thinly veiled rally for fiber to the home, it’s created a delicate situation for community organizations like the chamber of commerce, which do their best to cater to both Cox and LUS. (LUS Fiber, while a sponsor of the first FiberFête, is not involved in any way with the planning of the event.)

Chamber President and CEO Rob Guidry did not return a phone call seeking comment for this story.

This year, Cox public affairs rep Julie Dronet earned a seat on the chamber’s board of directors (LUS Director Terry Huval is also on the chamber board). Dronet says she has had conversations with members of the chamber and others about Cox becoming involved with Fiber Corps, a nonprofit headed by Daily and funded entirely by community organizations including the chamber and LEDA, but she has not had those conversations about it being involved with FiberFête. “That was by invitation only,” Dronet says of FiberFête. “We would have been interested in participating, but we weren’t invited to participate.” Fiber Corps’ mission is to promote Lafayette as a tech innovator and hub. For Dronet, it’s an obvious partner for Cox, which has proudly touted its own broadband upgrades and investments in Lafayette. “You know Fiber Corps is being funded by a number of different community partners, and Cox is already partnering with many of those entities, like the university, like the chamber, like LEDA, so it’s a natural [partnership],” Dronet says.
Daily says that Cox is absolutely welcome to participate with Fiber Corps initiatives and that he intends to meet soon with Dronet to discuss the possibilities. “There’s no denying the fact that I moved to town because of the fiber,” says Daily, who recently relocated his family to Lafayette from Washington, D.C. “That’s who I am. There’s just no way around it. But at the same time that doesn’t mean we’re doing things exclusively for [LUS] Fiber because that’s not what the community needs right now.”

The situation is somewhat different when it comes to FiberFête, a more private affair geared toward broadband purists. “People away from here view us as sort of leaders in this effort to provide an alternative to the standard [telecom] duopoly,” notes St. Julien, a retired university professor and tech enthusiast who runs the blog lafayetteprofiber.com. “That’s what conferences like this do — they pull together a community, and it would be hugely to Lafayette’s benefit in the long run to continue to be the sort of psychic hub of that community.”

In trying to once again reel in a broad coalition of business and community sponsors, FiberFête organizers have wrestled with the suggestion that they should now open up the festival to involve all of Lafayette’s telecom providers — an idea vehemently rejected by some FiberFête supporters. “It’s crazy,” St. Julien says. “It’s foolish to think that there would be a FiberFête without LUS Fiber.” He adds that the festival would not be near as attractive to a global audience if it were giving equal time to private local telecom providers like Cox Communications, because “Cox is doing [here] exactly what they’re doing in every other community.

“This was not a sort of ‘community feel good let’s boost technology event,’” he continues. “This was an international, advanced fiber-to-the-home conference held in a place that actually had done it. It’s called FiberFête for a reason. It’s about fiber to the home. This is not about standard issue technology and smiling and patting each other on the back about the community.”

St. Julien also stresses that Cox working through the chamber and other community organizations fits its demonstrated modus operandi for keeping competitors in check. LUS Fiber has argued that Cox Communications, through its position on the board of the National Cable Television Cooperative, has effectively blocked the municipal telecom from joining the NCTC and reaping the resulting membership savings in its programming costs. “Cox knows how to play the game,” St. Julien says. “They know how to get membership on boards like that and how to use it once they get it. On the national level and the local level, the company has that culture, they understand it. I’m not surprised.

“And when it all came down to it,” he continues, “I don’t think Cox could believe that the chamber could actually get itself together to support something that wasn’t a tax deduction. I think that Cox didn’t believe that the chamber could effectively act, and when they finally did, it made a difference. And they resolved that would never happen again.”

Daily and Isenberg aren’t publicly speculating on anyone’s motives, or on what sponsorship changes may be in store for FiberFête. Daily says that he views the event mainly as a showcase for any broadband-related innovations occurring in Lafayette. He notes that because of his involvement with Fiber Corps, he plans to relinquish his financial interest in the next FiberFête, though he will still help plan the event. He and Isenberg also have an agreement that come 2012, Fiber Corps will take over any future productions of FiberFête.

Isenberg says only that he would like to see FiberFête stay true to certain principles. “I think FiberFête gains power, becomes a statement on the world stage when it is about what’s unique about Lafayette,” he says. “And what’s unique about Lafayette isn’t limited to what’s unique about LUS Fiber; it’s about the Cajun spirit, Lafayette’s decision over 100 years ago to do their electrical plant. It’s about involvement of the community in their infrastructure and their future.”


Comments (16)add
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written by Rinkelstein , December 08, 2010 - 10:08 pm
Cox sux!
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written by Fiber One , December 09, 2010 - 08:38 am
While Cox and LUS should both attend Fiber Fete for the sake of advanced telecommunications for Lafayette, should Cox really attend? The Fiber Fete is for companies and individuals supporting fiber. I recall Cox being 100% opposed to fiber and I don't recall them supporting it in the community. We can't dilute Fiber Fete by allowing companies that are 100% opposed to fiber the ability to attend. There are other ways Cox can help the community. Because of Cox I have had to remove my LUS Fiber sign in my yard. Now you are saying let them support fiber? I don't think so. I am sending this message on my LUS Fiber Network at 100MB. Thanks LUS.
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written by ragin_cajun , December 09, 2010 - 05:05 pm
" I am sending this message on my LUS Fiber Network at 100MB. "

You posted this message to a website that is hosted at rackspace.com, not LUS. LUS didn't sell you a 100MB connection, nor did they sell you a 100 Mbps Internet connection, they sold you a 10 Mbps Internet connection that really gets about 7 Mbps when I tested it at their store on Pinhook. The 100 Mbps speeds are only for communication between hosts that are BOTH on the LUS network. So unless theind.com has a separate web presence inside of LUS' network, which is possible but unlikely, I don't think you sent your message at 100MB, or at 100 Mbps. Maybe Walter could confirm this for us?

"The Fiber Fete is for companies and individuals supporting fiber." The owners and organizers are saying something a bit different. What they are saying, according to the Independent is ---- "Daily says that he views the event mainly as a showcase for any broadband-related innovations occurring in Lafayette." That would be broader than LUS Fiber. For example, when ATT delivers Triple Play over DSL, that would actually be a "broadband-related innovation" for Lafayette--though not for Baton Rouge or Kaplan or Cameron Parish--they've all been at this for YEARS, now.

Also keep in mind, that Cox and ATT both use fiber all over the place in their networks, too. They both can provide Internet connection apeeds well in excess of 10 Mbps, 45 Mbps, and even higher. Cox provides Triple play just like LUS. ATT probably will soon, too.

So I'm still not clear on what's so unique about LUS Fiber...PONS instead of DOCSIS or DSL -- public instead of private funding--that's about all I can come up with.




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written by Lafayette , December 09, 2010 - 05:08 pm
Re: Fiber Fete': “That was by invitation only,” Dronet says of FiberFête. “We would have been interested in participating, but we weren’t invited to participate.”

Hi Julie,

We invited you (Cox) and Bell South to participate in bringing "Fiber" to Lafayette long ago. You both told us we were not worth the investment.

The funny part is how the Chamber of Commerce, too busy kissing the ass of big business, has been sidelined by what amounts to a government entity.

The farce that CoC calls the free market totally failed to service the city of Lafayette and the city of Lafayette said, "Fine, we will build it ourself!".

Now the poor little monopolies have not been invited to the party and so they are telling their friends that they better not go either! The monopolies are going to have their OWN party and they are going to bring lots of MONEY! Because you know they saved all that MONEY not investing in fiber to lafayette.

They may be sad now, but one day, when our fiber investment pays for itself and begins generating tax offsets for the city of Lafayette instead of profits for their stockholders, yes one day they will be really really sad.

For once we win out against The United Corporation of America. Enjoy your victory Lafayette, I doubt it will be long lived.
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written by Concerned4LFT , December 09, 2010 - 05:49 pm
To the user who calls him or her self "Lafayette",

The Socialist Party of the US called, they want their rhetoric back.

You obviously do not understand the free market. Nothing of what you said has any basis in fact, and not a whole lot of basis in anything other than... well, I just can't think of anything. Fear? Hatred maybe? Spite perhaps? All emotion, no facts and no intelligent thought.

You have consumed the fruit flavored sugar water and you want others to imbue the same.

C4L

P.S. I am a life long citizen of Lafayette and you DEFINITELY do not represent me.
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written by Lafayette , December 09, 2010 - 08:25 pm
So you attack my post, and say it has no basis in fact, yet you are unable to actually counter any of my points.

I'm sorry, but who is the zombie drinking the coolaid?

The bottom line is that the city came to the rescue when corporations failed. The result is fiber throughout the city, new business coming to Lafayette because of it. and a government venture that will lighten our personal tax load.

Regarding the speed-

First of all Cox has a 5mbps max upload speed, regardless of which package you choose. If all you do is watch youtube and netflix then that's fine, but companies that deal with heavy data loads need more bandwidth than that.

The LUS 100mbps service is not the same thing as the peer to peer intranet connection. The 100mbps intranet comes with ALL lus fiber internet packages. (Which is like a huge LAN party for you in town gamers)

Having 100mbps service is a HUGE benefit to businesses that many cities can't offer. Probably because Cox and Company say they are not worth the investment. This attracts the kind of businesses that are positioned to be productive in the 21st century.

I pay for the 30mbps and my speeds are regularly that or faster. I don't know what the problem that you ran into was Ragin Cajun but I never had speeds that low on LUS.



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written by Came to rescue - what? , December 09, 2010 - 10:18 pm
Lafayette said - "The bottom line is that the city came to the rescue when corporations failed. The result is fiber throughout the city, new business coming to Lafayette because of it. and a government venture that will lighten our personal tax load."

Bottom line is no one needed to be rescued. They built a pie in the sky dream, with a bill they could not afford, and now cannot pay. Private business was smart enough not to do this.


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written by ragin_cajun , December 09, 2010 - 11:18 pm
" 5mbps max upload speed, regardless of which package you choose." If you choose from residential packages, that may be correct. I haven't checked in Lafayette, but I'm pretty sure that Cox has higher speed services for businesses and carriers. I KNOW AT&T does. And if you buy a big enough circuit from AT&T, they will deliver the circuit to your building via -- wait on it -- FIBER! That's right, been doing it for years, too.

"companies that deal with heavy data loads" can't order LUS OR Cox residential service. They must order a business package. It is more expensive, and normally not capped or metered in any way. A circuit like that is more expensive than you realize, even if you order through LUS. So you're trying to compare apples and oranges.

"100mbps intranet comes with ALL lus fiber internet packages" You're right, that IS really nice for gamers. However, I can tell you that PS3 games work perfectly well on 1 Mbps links because they are actually latency and jitter sensitive, not bandwidth so much. Kinda like voice traffic.

"Having 100mbps service is a HUGE benefit to businesses that many cities can't offer" Completely untrue. Patently false. Go look up Metro Ethernet. Metro Area Networking. It's all over the US. Baton Rouge has fiber connectivity all over available from Cox, Level3, Eatel, etc. Exspedius in Lake Charles. Cameron Communications. 100 Mbps connectivity in the city is not too big a deal anymore--unless you're a slobbering LUS zealot in Lafayette. Please don't go outta town and start bragging about fiber and 100 Mbps in other parts of the country, or even this state--they'll give you the "so what" stare...it's not that special.

So there, I've countered your points.
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written by Concerned4LFT , December 10, 2010 - 04:33 pm
To the user who calls herself "Lafayette" but does not really represent Lafayette:

Facts you want? Facts you'll get. I see that 2 other users have already addressed part of what you were claiming and I corroborate what they say. Business class services are available from about a dozen different providers up to 10 Gigabit service level.

But back to facts... I have a few questions for you first.

1. If I give you facts that present a very different picture from what you claim, are you prepared to recant and admit, not that I am right (I think that would be asking too much), but that there is at least an alternate and very valid way of looking at this?

2. Did you ever take economics in college? Because you make claims about what the market did and did not do, so we will need to discuss some economics.

3. Do you have experience in telecom?

Answer those and I will get back with you with MANY facts.

C4L
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written by Neal Breakfield , December 10, 2010 - 09:08 pm
Hi,

I work for Cox. As we are on the topic of Cox' involvement in the community I thought you should know...

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/acadiana/111502369.html?showAll=y&c=y

This is a story about Cox' donation this week of free Dell laptops and free Internet service for a year to hundreds of students from the LPSB school system.

Here's an excerpt.

"Dronet said Cox has donated more than $250,000 in educational broadband initiatives and about $4.1 million in-kind and cash donations to Acadiana nonprofit organizations in the past year."

Cox does this all over Acadiana as well as Baton Rouge and New Orleans areas. It’s part of our culture. The founder of the company, James Cox, was originally a school teacher, 2 time governor of Ohio, pioneer in the newspaper business, pioneer in the cable industry and really believed that business had a responsibility to give back to the community. Cox Louisiana follows that tradition.

As leaders in broadband service in Acadiana, we want to be active participants in the growth of technology as well as the people of Acadiana.

Neal Breakfield
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written by Gerald Bertholl , December 11, 2010 - 12:07 am
Go Ragun_Cajun...I have to agree. When i worked in the transportation section, i routinely compared Cox to LUS fiber speeds and there was NO DIFFERENCE. These test were done on identical computers, with identical services, cpu memories, etc. while downloading, using identical files, on totally separate feeds. I verified the hops taken between routers and varied the routes thru the internet, east coast/west coast and every time the speeds were the same using file sizes of 100-200 MB. While this issue of speeds could be applicable, if someone improperly designed an architecture with something like putting 20,000 households through a bottleneck for one company and not the other, any competent engineer(s) would never do this. These misconceptions are why we need to fix education in this country, so people don't fall for stuff, such as this. For example, i remember the look on people's faces when i noted that telegraph signals propagated as fast as fiber signals with very little differences. Remember from physics, "With small variances ALL ELECTROMAGNETIC SIGNALS TRAVEL AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT". Also another tip, the speeds anyone will experience will depend upon the slowest device in the link from beginning to end. If i have a 1 million GigaB fiber in my home sending email to sloppy joe's dial up modem guess how fast my thoughput is????? or better yet, if this is all i do, why do i even need anything, but the slowest speed. So, as a conscientious consumer, maybe i am paying for super fast speeds, but actually experiencing dial-up service?????
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written by Eat Prey Kill , December 12, 2010 - 03:32 pm
written by Lafayette

1. The bottom line is that the city came to the rescue when corporations failed.
2. and a government venture that will lighten our personal tax load.
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1. From personal experience only, I have not seen or heard anyone telling of a great change in internet connectivity with LUS. LUS just another provider.

2. Lighten the tax load? Recent published info on the financial situation of LUS fiber appears to put this point far, far, away.

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written by Wow , December 13, 2010 - 02:15 am
"Dronet said Cox has donated more than $250,000 in educational broadband initiatives and about $4.1 million in-kind and cash donations to Acadiana nonprofit organizations in the past year."

Prior to Lafayette's fiber initiative, Cox was making about $ZERO dollars in donations to anything. I know, I asked many times, and they said "No, we don't make such contributions."

So, Lafayette's fiber program has generated over $4 million a year of local sponsorships from Cox. Why doesn't The Independent run comprehensive articles on how Cox has manipulated the Louisiana market to play these games?

These "sponsorship" figures are over and above the newfound savings and special deals that Cox offers to folks in Lafayette. Where were those deals 5 years ago. Why couldn't they have offered those then? The deals being offered in Lafayette are much better than the deals offered outside the city limits of Lafayette - and much better than the deals offered in neighboring parishes.

What does this mean? It means all of Cox's non-Lafayette customers are subsidizing Cox's lower rates in Lafayette. Thanks Crowley, Abbeville, St. Martinville and New Iberia - you are paying more so Cox can lower rates in the city of Lafayette.


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written by ragin_cajun , December 13, 2010 - 05:42 pm
Wow --

" The deals being offered in Lafayette are much better than the deals offered outside the city limits of Lafayette"

Prove it! I just got two quotes on Cox.com for residential bundles. One using my in town lafayette address, the other using an address in St. Martin parish. The website quoted me the EXACT SAME price on the EXACT SAME service.

Your argument doesn't hold water.

" Thanks Crowley, Abbeville, St. Martinville and New Iberia" From what I can tell from cox.com, St. Martinville is actually not subsidizing lower rates in Lafayette.

I think you're intentionally misrepresenting the truth to make your point. If you seriously want to have any credibility, then you should provide some evidence to support what you are saying.


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written by Wow , December 14, 2010 - 02:54 am
Cox is not dumb enough to show the differences on their website. You have to look at their mailouts to customers in different areas to see the difference. I compared mine to someone I know in Lafayette.

Maybe you could find out by calling them; but I doubt they would tell you. Ask Cox to prove they are not differentiating their prices.


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written by AnonTechie , December 18, 2010 - 12:09 am
Cox called again. They said your "lobbying" checks were ready to be picked up at the front desk.
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