News -> INDReporter FRI, DEC 10 12:43PM by Hope Rurik

Future of UL oaks still uncertain

During the past two weeks, UL Lafayette President Joseph Savoie has held meetings with students in order to clarify the situation that threatens six live oak trees on UL’s campus, all of which have been marked with red ribbons by students protesting their destruction.

“Basically, the president was appeasing his constituents in sequential order as they went to him,” says Adam Constantin, a renewable resources student and member of the Society for Peace, Environment, Action and Knowledge. “First, the band went to him to save the practice field in the very early stages, so that was saved. More recently, the architecture department asked to have the buildings saved that have significance to them, so that happened. Our main problem is that there was no voice speaking for the oaks in question.”

Constantin says he and other concerned students are working with the administration to organize a committee that would be informed and included in planning on projects that threaten the university’s trees, especially larger, native varieties. The planned destruction of the trees was first reported in The Independent Weekly Nov. 17.

“I am completely encouraged for the future of the university as far as future problems that may arise, because we understand what we have to do in the future,” says Constantin. Plans were, for the most part, solidified before the community could object, and Constantin says the committee will allow for a voice to speak for the trees earlier next time.

Savoie told students that he still wants to save what trees he can, specifically the live oak on McKinley Street and the oak on Taft Street in the Denbo/Bancroft parking lot. However, students question whether all of his proposals are viable.

“He said he’s trying to move those trees,” says Constantin. “Personally, I’ve never heard of moving trees that size, but he said money wasn’t an issue and that if those trees could be saved they would. I honestly have faith in him, but not blind faith.”

“He explained that he is trying even harder now to either save or move two of them, which we’re hearing from experts is a shaky concept, moving trees that big,” says Felicita “Flitzy” Wilhelm, also a renewable resources student. “I mean from what we’re hearing, it’s possible, but no matter how much money you spend, there’s still chance that they’re not going to live.”

The other option the president told students he would propose to architects would be to push the buildings closer together so that they would avoid the oaks.

“Oh, it is very viable. It is absolutely viable,” says primary designer Steve Oubre of Architects Southwest. “Each of these things have to be tested against a lot of things. One solution was to turn a building to create a leg on it to clear the trees. Well, what happens when you do that is you [infringe] on another building, and there are code requirements that we have to evaluate. For instance, if it’s closer than 30 feet then we have to build firewalls. What are the costs of the firewalls? Do you get visibility from one room to another room? So all of those things have to be looked at with each concept and scheme, and that’s what we’re doing right now.”

Oubre also says he’s “extremely optimistic” about the solutions they have looked at in recent meetings. However, the clock is ticking and the team working on these plans must have every decision made within the next week so that construction can begin on housing on Taft Street and Tulane Avenue and on University Avenue to meet the university’s expectations for an August 2011 completion. Until then, the fate of those oak trees is in limbo.

As it wraps up plans for the housing project, Architects Southwest will also receive the contract for UL’s Master Plan, which should take the campus into the next decade. Oubre says three, 10-day charettes are planned, to involve the community at-large in the direction of that plan.


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written by none , December 10, 2010 - 06:35 pm
as soon as the students and faculty leave for the holidays, the trees will come down. probably at night.
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written by treemover , December 10, 2010 - 11:19 pm
Trees of this size can be moved. I'm quite sure Bob's Tree preservation or Daniel Green Tree service could, if not provide this service refer the university to a capable party. About a decade ago the Shaw Company in Baton Rouge, purchased a piece of property along Interstate 10 that had a huge historic oak on it. In order to be able to build the structure the company envisioned, something had to be done with the tree.

The Shaw group took it upon themselves to find a company that was able to not only successfully relocate the tree but also conduct the maintenance needed after the transplant, so that the tree would survive the shock. I'm sure if no one has the capabilities to handle the move locally, someone at the Shaw group would be more than happy to give the name of the organization that they used.

In our need to adapt for current and future growth, let's not forget the value these amazing trees have... historicly, symbolically, financially...it is truly immeasurable.
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written by BoFred , December 13, 2010 - 10:35 am
I'm just so disappointed in ULL in recent years. The admin just adds insult to injury, all the while sending me tons of alumni mail asking for $$$. More junk mail comes in asking for donations for one "foundation" or chair or another, and I just feel as is the students & higher ed are pretty far down the list of ULL's concerns.... One more black eye. If the man in charge of the job can't figure out how to construct around the trees, get a new man on the job. Hells bells, "they" get paid tons and tons of money. Can't that amount of money hire a competent person? Stop taking care of the buddies, or the old frat boys, or whatever, and put the people of this community and the students first for once in a long time....
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written by Regan Coussan , December 17, 2010 - 11:10 pm
-- and the sneaky, underhanded buggers are doing it in the best way possible to get as little student reaction and media coverage as they can. And then there's the half-assed article in our other local paper, with an obvious bias, stating that UL's trees are dying for a good reason, and UL and Lafayette needs dorms more than trees. It shouldn't surprise us, after all -- this paper is not called "The Advertiser" for nothing. Got a kickback or two from UL, did we?

http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20101124/OPINION01/11240310/UL-oaks-will-die-for-good-cause

I hope someone sticks a branch from one of the oaks through Savoie's windshield, and perhaps one through a window at The Advertiser, to boot.

The two on Taft are to be cut down today. If you're in the area, just stop and mourn for a moment. Let them know this didn't go unnoticed--on a Friday (which is a 1/2 day)--after school is out (so students are gone)--with a weekend for the worst reactions to blow over before someone has to answer a phone on Monday.

Went over there a few minutes ago...no actual cutting going on, but it's obvious they intend to. Tree on the band field side of the building has been excavated around to a depth of several feet and an additional tree NOT on the original list has been excavated also. The UL group is trying to get folks to keep an eye on the site today to alert the media etc if they start removal.

I cannot believe that they are going to do exactly what everyone was most afraid of -- wait 'til the students are gone for the weekend and break, and then start taking out the trees. So much for this illusion that Savoie was one of the good guys after his back-room-deal predecessor was turned out. If nothing else, I would like to see someone gather leaves from all of them and dump them on Savoie's office doorstep.
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written by Regan Coussan , December 17, 2010 - 11:15 pm
-- and the sneaky, underhanded buggers are doing it in the best way possible to get as little student reaction and media coverage as they can.

And then there's the half-assed article with an obvious bias, stating that UL's trees are dying for a good reason, and UL and Lafayette needs dorms more than trees. It shouldn't surprise us, after all -- this paper is not called "The Advertiser" for nothing. Got a kickback or two from UL, did we?

http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20101124/OPINION01/11240310/UL-oaks-will-die-for-good-cause

I hope someone sticks a branch from one of the oaks through Savoie's windshield, and perhaps one through a window at The Advertiser, to boot.

Those who have commented here make good points, best among them that about the ability to relocate those trees. "In our need to adapt for current and future growth, let's not forget the value these amazing trees have... historicly, symbolically, financially...it is truly immeasurable."

The two trees on Taft are to be cut down today. If you're in the area, just stop and mourn for a moment. Let them know this didn't go unnoticed--on a Friday (which is a 1/2 day)--after school is out (so students are gone)--with a weekend for the worst reactions to blow over before someone has to answer a phone on Monday.

No actual cutting going on yet, but it is obvious they intend to. Tree on the band field side of the building has been excavated around to a depth of several feet and an additional tree NOT on the original list has been excavated also. The UL group is trying to get folks to keep an eye on the site today to alert the media etc if they start removal.

I cannot believe that they are going to do exactly what everyone was most afraid of -- wait 'til the students are gone for the weekend and break, and then start taking out the trees. So much for this illusion that Savoie was one of the good guys after his back-room-deal predecessor was turned out. If nothing else, I would like to see someone gather leaves from all of them and dump them on Savoie's office doorstep.
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written by Jason D. Faulk , December 20, 2010 - 05:57 am
The most important kernel of significance this article leaves the reader going away with is the fact that the University intends to formalize the details of its Land Use Master Plan through a Charette process. Any good charette worth its salt will solicit input in a transparent fashion from all interested stakeholders. Such a plan I hope will assess most of the finer details and avoid the unfortunate dischord that the still pending fate of the 6 Live Oaks affair has brought to many of our hearts and minds. There is no guarantee that the actual building process at any specific site will be limited to the confines of a footprint designated on the master plan, but the process all around I hope will allow the concerns to be aired out. A non-biased party should be included and empowered to facilitate a greater consensus making. This is an opportunity for part of our community (academia) to set a positive example for future possibilities of inclusive governance in Lafayette. It is there to teach after all, the best teaching being not in the telling but in the showing, leading by good example.
Thanks UL, for having been a part of my life opening doors to civic involvement through the Horse Farm initiative and through the present.
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