News -> INDReporter TUE, MAR 15 9:38AM by Leslie Turk

Poll: buyer’s remorse over Stelly repeal

Almost 60 percent of residents in a recent statewide poll have buyer's remorse over the  Stelly Plan repeal, saying it was a bad idea that contributed to the state’s budget shortfall.

Approved by lawmakers in 2002, the Stelly Plan cut state sales taxes for everyone and increased income taxes on wealthier taxpayers, but in 2008, the Legislature reinstated tax cuts for wealthier individuals but left the sales tax cuts in place. That move may have cost the state more than $600 million this budget year, according to The Times-Picayune.

The 2011 Louisiana Survey by the Louisiana State University Public Policy Research Lab from Jan. 18 to March 1 also found more people believe the state is heading in the wrong direction and are losing confidence that state government can address the problems.

The survey, which polled 725 residents over land-line telephones and cell phones, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.6 percentage points.

An overwhelming number of voters support so-called “sin” taxes: 85 percent favor increasing the taxes on gambling, 76 percent want an increase in the tax on alcoholic beverages and 73 percent support a higher tax on tobacco products.

Additionally, most people are more willing to consider tax increases when the revenue is dedicated to a specific purpose: 52 percent support an increase in the state gasoline tax if it is dedicated to improving roads, and 61 percent favor an increase in the state income tax if the revenue is dedicated specifically to state colleges or health care.

Read the T-P story here.


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written by ragin_cajun , March 15, 2011 - 03:47 pm
Goidel said a lawmaker who sponsors a tax increase at the April 25 session "is (at) high risk. The public is fickle."

That is also in the T-P story. It's certainly true. I will be watching very closely to see how Michot and Cortez vote. And of course, I expect Jindal to veto any tax increases that come across his desk. So long as Jindal sticks to his guns, and cuts some spending, he's golden.





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written by RCajunrunner , March 15, 2011 - 04:10 pm
"Approved by lawmakers in 2002, the Stelly Plan cut state sales taxes for everyone and increased income taxes only on the wealthiest taxpayers"

Wow. Really, Lafayette "Independent"? I didn't realize $80k was the "wealthiest" of taxpayers. A combined income of 80k could easily be a police officer and a teacher. Boy, that married couple is really living large!
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written by RCajunrunner , March 15, 2011 - 04:17 pm
I also noticed that according to this poll, only 29% of responders support increaing property taxes by means of lowering homestead exemption.

I wonder what portion of that 71% opposed to lowering homestead flock to the polls and vote for every property tax increase because they know they won't be paying for it?
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written by Leslie Turk , March 15, 2011 - 04:19 pm
OK RCajunrunner, you're right. Changed to wealthier. And they might not be wealthy, just wealthier. I know you're planning a comeback.
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written by Reality Please... , March 15, 2011 - 04:20 pm
The reality is that $80k per year as a HH income does put you in the top 25% of Louisiana Households...
I don't think we are giving those sampled enough credit here - they surely realize that the cuts we are now making and needed due to lowering the tax burden on so many now is forcing cuts to programs they deem vital. K-12 Cuts, University cuts... what will make a business want to locate here if they can't send their kids to decent schools? Who will want to move here? The out migration we are seeing is huge... Jindal is taking us down the wrong road.
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written by RCajunrunner , March 15, 2011 - 04:50 pm
Only comeback I have is much better adjective. Thanks, Mrs. Turk.

I do find your blogs and articles to be written with much less bias than he whose initials are W.P.!

Fact is Louisiana has too many 4 year public universities for taxpayers to effectively support. The problem is not the need to increase taxes. The problem is not the "cutting" of universities. The problem is that the Higher Ed pie is cut into too many pieces.

Reduce the number of public 4 year universities and give the available funds to the remaining schools for them to advance further.
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written by Walter Pierce , March 15, 2011 - 05:00 pm
RCajunrunner, bro, why you gotta drag me into this?!!!
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written by K-dawg , March 15, 2011 - 07:39 pm
Sin tax? You left out prostitution. Now, that's something that never goes out of style. The state could get billions. Tax it now.
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written by Compassionate One , March 15, 2011 - 09:32 pm
"I also noticed that according to this poll, only 29% of responders support increaing property taxes by means of lowering homestead exemption."

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You don't suppose those are the same 30% of the populace who rent do you? Nah, I didn't think so.

Don't tax you, don't tax me, just tax that man behind the tree!

Let's keep the dialogue flowing.


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written by Jason D. Faulk , March 16, 2011 - 12:51 am
Renters are still paying property taxes. They may not see it, but if you are a low-income renter, the impact is all the more greater to the bottom line of monthly rental costs since there is no homestead exemption on duplexes, homes, and apartments. Now if you happen to rent a unit in a public housing community, I am wondering if the taxes are foregone.

Renters are not the majority of the population, and it is not to say that there is a correlation between those that support lowering the exemption because they believe it does not affect them and those would be impacted by it (the renters and owners of property under 75K or near or below the median rates.
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written by Compassionate One , March 16, 2011 - 01:04 am
Good job on the revision! ;-)
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written by Loon Bafoon , March 16, 2011 - 09:55 am
Everyone and once again...cast a glaring eye toward Louisiana's own right wing loony tunes talk jock - Moon Griffon. He brought us Bobby Jindal and now denounces him practically on every show. He continues to hiss gutterally over the Stelly tax plan even after he successfully brought it down. Keep on listening and obeying Moon from Monroe and see where this state ends up... and BTW, so long as ole Moon keeps running Bobby in the ground...well maybe and just maybe ...Bobby ain't so bad after all.
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written by BoFred , March 16, 2011 - 10:49 am
I HAVE NO BUYER'S REMORSE AT ALL!!! I am remorseful Stelly passed the "bleepin" thing in the first place. The huge amount of cash it brought in resulted in a spending orgy that we're still paying, but have to cut in other areas to do so. I am remorseful those expnditures were made. So many raises were given then, now we have to cut state workers to maintain them. One I'm thinking of is teachers..... I don't begrudge them their salaries, but I am remorseful it did nothing that resulted in better educated students... All it did was require me to send more toiletpaper, paper towels & tissue to school. Now that's a lot of ash wiping, hand cleaning and crying. And the day anyone starts talking about lowering my Homestead Exemption is the day I become a tea potter and take up a sign and walk! You think you're sick of hearing from the Tea Party, just try raising property taxes or lowering my exemption!
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written by James Melancon , March 16, 2011 - 01:11 pm
"That move (Stelly repeal) may have cost the state more than $600 million this budget year"
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On the other hand, the state spent $600 million too much.
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written by Loon Grifoon , March 16, 2011 - 01:31 pm
Help....I fallen and I can't get up. I just want to know one thing...why does Texas have better schools and better roads than Louisiana. And why ain't Texas having all the budget problems like us over here in good ole Louzianne? What do they get a bigger portion of our oil revenues than we do....just askin??

But lemme tell you one more thing...I ain't never gonna move to Texas and have to pay all them damn property taxes. Just ain't gonna happen; I'll modify my scooter so it can roll on dirt trails befoe I give up my homestead exemption and have to pay property taxes.
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written by BobbyD , March 16, 2011 - 04:41 pm
Whoever called Moon a loon is right on. Moon rails that Stelly lied when he said the tax increase would be revenue neutral. What Stelly said — and I was at a forum in Lake Charles when Moon debated the plan with Stelly — was that his plan would be revenue neutral IN THE FIRST YEAR. Stelly was wrong. In the first year, it actually brought in less money than the sales tax it replaced. However, any tax that is based on income will never be revenue neutral. When people's salaries rise, so do the amount of taxes they pay. Moon must have slept through his Economic 101 classes at NLU ... that is if he ever bothered to go to class. Shakespeare had Moon in mind when he wrote "told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
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written by ragin_cajun , March 17, 2011 - 01:42 pm
BoFred

"just try raising property taxes or lowering my exemption!"

Start making up your sign right now, padnuh. The School Board is trying to decide as we speak whether to raise property taxes or sales taxes to get that BILLION dollars they need to fix the schools.

Reality Please...

" what will make a business want to locate here if they can't send their kids to decent schools?" Companies locate here everyday, and many of them don't even think about the schools. the ones that do look at schools before they locate here also take into account the quality of the PRIVATE schools in the area.

As for our university system, I am starting to wonder about those who insist that we can't cut government spending on universities in this state. RAISE TUITION!!! Louisiana probably has the lowest tuition in the country.

Let's all use our heads and think of ways to do things WITHOUT the government, and we won't need them so much, and we won't need to pay higher taxes. THAT'S THE ANSWER!

It's how your grandparents did it.
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written by BoFred , March 17, 2011 - 02:14 pm
I remember 20 yrs ago voting in favor of a I think the number was 4 cents, but a tax for roads & bridges and most of it went to State Troopers benefits..... So much for dedications.
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written by Been Netinyahoo , March 17, 2011 - 05:22 pm
by BoFred "I remember 20 yrs ago . . "
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I remember Edwin Edwards saying gambling was the going to make the money flow! What happened to that?
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written by The Original Northsidian , March 17, 2011 - 10:12 pm
This is the problem. The budget is out of wack because they spend MORE THAN THEY TAKE IN. Now what don't ya'll understand about that???????????????
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