News -> INDReporter THU, JUN 16 4:06PM by Walter Pierce

Veto override fails in House

Congratulations smokers: Thanks to Louisiana being the only state in the union to lower its tax on cigarettes, you’ll being paying 4 cents less per pack next year, assuming retailers to don’t take advantage of Gov. Bobby Jindal’s fiscal insanity and pocket the difference themselves.

A vote in the full House to override Jindal’s Tuesday veto of a bill that renews 4 cents of the state’s tax on cigarettes failed. Seventy votes — that’s the original number of representatives who voted May 24 to renew the tax — were needed to override Jindal’s veto. But 11 representatives who originally voted to renew the tax jumped ship, tethered their lifesavers to Steamship Bobby and voted against the override.

The tax generated only $12 million in revenue dedicated to health care for the state annually, but supporters of the renewal argued that Louisiana stood to leverage an additional $38 million in federal matching funds by renewing the tax. So, as the bill’s sponsor pointed out on the House floor Thursday, failing to renew the tax amounts to a $50 million hit against a state grappling with a devastating budget shortfall.

“What could you spend that money on?” sponsor Harold Ritchie, D-Bogalusa, asked rhetorically of his fellow lawmakers before the vote. “That’s almost half the money that we moved for the [Medicaid Coordinated Care Network], twice as much as we would need to keep five prisons open, 20 times more than we would need to operate school-based health care clinics. You know, what the governor has done with this veto is repudiate his life’s work and he’s given a 10-percent tax break to 20 percent of the people who smoke who cost this state hundreds of millions of dollars each year that the other 80 percent of us have to pay for.”

Rep. John Bel Edwards, D-Amite, also spoke on behalf of Ritchie’s House Bill 591 heading into the vote: “It takes a lot of courage to take on the governor of the great state of Louisiana, even when the governor’s demonstrably and egregiously wrong as he is in this matter — it still takes a lot of courage,” Edwards said. “If the veto stands, the tax on cigarettes falls by 4 cents; if the override is successful, the tax on cigarettes stays the same. So, who’s talking about raising cigarette taxes? Nobody — that’s not what this bill does. The veto message is off target, as has been the governor from day one on this issue.”

The 11 state representatives who voted in May to renew the tax but lost their spines on Thursday and are directly responsible for the override’s failure include, sadly, two from Lafayette: Republican Nancy Landry and Speaker Pro Tem Joel Robideaux, no party, were joined in scuttling the override by Reps. Robert Billiot, D-Westwego, Steve Carter, R-Baton Rouge, Charles Chaney, R-Rayville, Jim Fannin, D-Jonesboro, Hunter Greene, R-Baton Rouge, Frank Hoffmann, R-West Monroe, Kay Katz, R-Monroe, Thomas McVea, R-Jackson and Thomas Wilmott, R-Kenner.


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written by bayougal , June 16, 2011 - 09:34 pm
I'm shocked that this veto override failed. Frankly, it didn't occur to me to ask my representative to support the override - it seemed blatantly obvious.
There I go again, assuming the best.
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written by cool , June 16, 2011 - 09:48 pm
The two Michot puppets are also Jindal puppets. Ain't that nice.
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written by yesidoknow , June 16, 2011 - 10:20 pm
I watched the veto session on my computer. I can't believe that after all of the impassioned speeches given by various legislators, Joel Robideaux and Nancy Landry didn't possess the courage to do the rational thing and vote to override the veto. Not one of those reps opposing the veto had the courage to go to the well and give their reason why they supported the veto. I am thoroughly disgusted with their lack of backbone. Obviously, reason had nothing to do with their vote. It was pure politics. Spineless jellyfish all.
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written by NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN , June 16, 2011 - 10:30 pm
GLAD THAT GOT SHOT DOWN

NOW I CAN BUY MY KUSH FOR CHEAPER

YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, USING DRUGS DOES NOT MAKE YOU A CRIMINAL, JUST ASK GEORGE BUSH
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written by yadumonde , June 17, 2011 - 12:57 am
Louisianians got what they deserved when they elected Jindal, now let them live with him. As long as he continues to spout out "no new taxes", the people will be fine with him... continuous slide into a third-world mentality. A complete embarrassment to the rest of the states.
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written by Bow Tox , June 17, 2011 - 02:10 am
Great! I am smoking an extra pack this week to celebrate.
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written by BoFred , June 17, 2011 - 02:35 am
I understand Nancy's lack of balls, but the rest??? All those men in the legislature and so little testosterone.... How can so many people be so afraid of such a little man.... They should know its the voters they need to be afraid of. We will not forget their cowardice. Hers included.
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written by WhereIsOurVoice , June 17, 2011 - 03:04 am
Dear Governor Jindal...YOU GOT THIS ONE WRONG!
Some things should be taxed. Cigarettes are one of them. I watched my beloved mother die from lung cancer two years ago. She was a pack a day smoker for over 40 years. God knows she tried to quit many times over the years but couldn't quit until 2 months before her death. I'm a former smoker who still craves nicotine 6 years after quiting and watching my mother fade away before my very eyes.

Yep, you got this one wrong Mr. Governor...and so did your lapdogs over at the state capitol who wouldn't overturn your veto of the cigarette tax. The reasons for your veto and for their refusal was nothing more than a political power play and you all know it.

I can tell you this...knowing what I know now...you can't tax this DRUG enough. How much does a pack of cigarettes cost???? My mom would tell you...her life.
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written by The way it is. , June 17, 2011 - 10:25 am
Nancy Landry voted for the renewal, but against the veto out of loyalty to the governor who supported her campaign for state representative. Joel Robideaux voted against the veto because he wants Jindal to appoint him Speaker next year. Page Cortez voted for the renewal and for the veto knowing that the veto override would fail, but that his "yea" vote would make him look like he is not a lap dog of Piyush Jindal. We all know the truth is, Page Cortez will sit up and yip everything Piyush Jindal snaps his fingers. Bottom line, Piyush Jindal runs the state lock, stock, and smoking cigarette butt.
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written by rambeaux rawlings , June 17, 2011 - 11:13 am
"Helluva job, Bobby"
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written by Compassionate One , June 17, 2011 - 01:58 pm
It was a TEMPORARY TAX that was allowed to expire.

What a horror, letting people keep more of their money and letting the government tighten up. (sarcasm)

Good job Jindal!
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written by Dudley E. LaBauve, III , June 17, 2011 - 03:09 pm
Government these days, more than ever, is interested in taxing everything, and we, as a society, are becoming more and more dependent on government to take care of our asses. That is what is shameful!
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written by Box Tox , June 17, 2011 - 05:31 pm
There should be an excise on boudin. It's almost as bad as cigs. I watch my uncle died of heard disease because of too much boudin. The government should tax it now.
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written by P Cortez Needs to be Out of Office , June 17, 2011 - 05:42 pm
Jindal is wrong and is not caring about the state of Louisiana. He is only concerned about himself.

Page Cortez, if you look at his voting history, does not typically vote to support anything cancer related. I will do my best to make sure he is not in office after this next election.

Nancy and Joel have now joined the list with Page. These three clearly support our Governor more than they support the people of Lafayette. It is time that Lafayette comes together and makes a change for people who support US.
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written by Independent Conservative , June 17, 2011 - 07:14 pm
It is odd to see such enthusiasm for additional taxes, sin or otherwise, as many of those commenting here seem to have. The flip-flop is odd given those representatives should never have voted for renewing an expiring tax, but perhaps they were made aware of their constituents' feelings on the matter after the veto and rightfully changed their minds. Why Page Cortez would be voting in favor of increased (or renewed) taxes as a purported conservative is hard to fathom.
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written by Walter Pierce , June 17, 2011 - 08:47 pm
Actually, "The way it is" and "Independent Conservative," Cortez voted against the renewal last month and voted against the override on Thursday.
Say what you will about the tax renewal, I'll give Cortez credit for being consistent.
Staying in Lafayette Parish, ditto for Rickey Hardy and Bobby Badon, both of whom voted for the renewal and for the override.
We can't say the same for Joel and Nancy.
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written by ragin_cajun , June 17, 2011 - 09:39 pm
C'mon, Walter. It wasn't a year ago were lecturing me about pragmatism and flexibility in our public leaders. You told me all this insistence on principles was no good. Now you're trotting out the old John Wayne style nod to an opponent who stuck to his guns? PLEASE!!!

I demand an investigation! Did you recently get a "real sweet deal" on a La-z-boy recliner?
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written by Walter Pierce , June 17, 2011 - 09:54 pm
I didn't say I agree with Cortez voting against the renewal, ragin, and for the record I emphatically do not. But since "The way it is" inaccurately claimed that Cortez went all fraidy-cat like Robideaux and Landry when that wasn't the case, I thought it fair to clear that up before it became conventional wisdom.
Now will you please log off and go get ready for your Civil War reenactment or whatever it is you do on weekends?!!
sheesh
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written by ragin_cajun , June 17, 2011 - 10:23 pm
Walter--

I typically work on the weekends, Walter. I'm a very busy man...until I'm forced to wait on line for administrative/bureaucratic nonsense...

Did you know that all the time I spend posting to this site is time that I'm forced to wait by some kind of senseless rule/regulation/ordinance/law/statute? I look back through all these articles a few times a year and marvel at the time taken from me by meddling busybody bathroom monitors from my youth who have grown up now and call themselves "officials"...,...

All those moments, lost in time, like "tears in rain"....:)


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written by rambeaux rawlings , June 17, 2011 - 10:27 pm
Where were all the "fiscal conservatives" when the possible review of $7 billion in tax emptions was shot down by Jindal?
Are people who oppose all taxes really "fiscal conservatives" or are they anarchists? Or are they just selfish and scared? (Answers available on request).
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written by Walter Pierce , June 17, 2011 - 10:38 pm
I'm boo-daying for you, ragin.
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written by ragin_cajun , June 18, 2011 - 12:52 am
Rambeaux.....

Or....are they people who....,perhaps.....think/feel....,that the dollars they spend moments of the finite days of their lives EARNING.,...should be theirs to keep?'?!?!

I pay lotsa taxes.,,,tell us all..,,,.why should I pay even more?

Can you tell us.....how much of what I earn should be taken from me? Can you please tell me what percentage of my earnings you, and the "state" or "community", or "collective", or "cool town" are now entitled to?

Seriously....tell me...what percent is enough.,,,,and what would you deem to be too much.,,,

Just so wr know who we're talking to here.,,.
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written by The way it is. , June 18, 2011 - 12:50 pm
Walter, thank you for your correction of my error concerning Page Cortez. By your accurate report of his voting in regard to the tax renewal as well as the veto override, you have confirmed that he is a true blue lap dog of Piyush Jindal.
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written by NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN , June 19, 2011 - 05:55 am
The comment posted on june 16 at 5:30 by the illerate Dumbass posting under my name is an idiot, a candy ass panty waist, MorPho.....At 5:30 I was in Houston, Texas enjoying a double Margarita on Westheimer. By the way, what in the hell is KUSH ? Ya dumbass.
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written by Bow Tox , June 19, 2011 - 11:50 am
Without tabacco what will we put in our peace pipes?
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