News -> INDReporter FRI, JUL 15 10:31AM by Walter Pierce

Boffy: terminate teacher tenure

A candidate for the District 7 seat on the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education is calling for end of the tenure system for teachers in Louisiana public schools. Holly Boffy of Lafayette, the 2010 Louisiana teacher of the year recognized for her work at Paul Breaux Middle School — Boffy has since retired from public education and works for the Associated Professional  Educators of Louisiana — told members of the Rotary Club of Baton Rouge this week, according to The Advocate, saying “We need to get rid of it as soon as we possibly can.”

The position, which is in line with BESE member Chas Roemer’s failed bid earlier this year to abolish tenure, is likely to raise the hackles of state teacher unions.

Boffy is so far the only announced candidate taking on incumbent District 7 BESE member Dale Bayard of Sulphur. District 7 represents southwest Louisiana and includes Lafayette.

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written by Jay Culotta, MD , July 15, 2011 - 05:51 pm
Halleluia! Let's reward teachers for great performance. The system of tenure is outdated and has outlived its usefulness in this technology driven world. There are much better ways of evaluating and rewarding teachers than using tenure, which only makes it more difficult to weed out the poorest performing. Despite having 4 teachers in my family, I believe this should be put on the chopping block and move LA into the 21st century of education. Kudos to Ms. Boffy. She has my vote.
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written by Dagnabbit Jones , July 15, 2011 - 05:54 pm
Sounds good to me. Why should anyone have a guaranteed job for life? OK, U.S. Supreme court justices and Moms excepted.
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written by Farrow , July 15, 2011 - 06:08 pm
Well, it's a choice between Boffy, who wants to end teacher tenure, and Bayard, who is an evolution skeptic.
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written by Gary McGoffin , July 15, 2011 - 06:20 pm
We have two opportunities to profoundly change the direction of public education this year. Lafayette is going to have a new Superintendent. And we have a remarkable Lafayette candidate for the Board of Elementary and Secondary Education (BESE) in the fall election.

I want to personally invite you to meet Holly Boffy this Thursday, July 21, from 5-7 at Trynd downtown. She taught our son, Matthew, and she was the Louisiana Teacher of the Year in 2010. More importantly, she knows what needs to be done to move this state forward in public education.

Imagine Lafayette with a progressive Superintendent supported by an experienced Lafayette educator on the BESE board. It's an opportunity to break down the silos and bring all our resources, state and local, to support kids learning in the class room.

This is the year to make a huge difference in Lafayette public education.

Show your support on Thursday or at HollyBoffy.com.

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written by What we should know , July 16, 2011 - 09:54 am
Tenure for teachers began to save the positions of educators who were summarily dismissed by unscrupulous administrators for little or no reason. The administrators had carte blanc to hire and fire at will. Much like the Jindal administration does now. Here in a state where the labor laws heavily favor employers over employees, tenure for teachers - with its faults - is still very much needed. Boffy comes out strongly to do away with teacher tenure. Yet, Louisiana is the only state out of all fifty to grant school bus drivers tenure. And, measures to get rid of tenure for bus drivers failed, again, in the legislature during this past session.

My point is, yes the tenure laws for teachers needs to be tweeked and tightened, but not eliminated. McGoffin attempts to come across as the Oracle of Delphi with his coronation of Boffy for BESE. How does he know that "she knows what needs to be done to move this state forward in education"? So she taught his son and was Teacher of the Year. OK, great and that's wonderful. Do those two individual recognition items give her the vision and big picture view to manage education for the entire state? I think not. Especially when, with all the things needed to be changed in LA public education, the first item Boffy trumpets is "terminate teacher tenure" like any good Jindal clone.

Also, if tenure is done away with, any teacher who refuses to teach creationism, which is the law in Louisiana, - no matter how gifted the teacher - can and will be dismissed by short sighted(of which there are many) administrators. If a wonderful, community concerned, intelligent, man of great vision, award winning, community recognized, education knowledgeable person like McGoffin realizes all these things about our education system, he should run for BESE. He can then be another Piyush Jindal appointed attorney superintendent of education puppet like Pastorek and further gut the public education system of Louisiana instead of working to improve it. Don't back a hack like Boffy, run for it yourself, Gary. Granted, Bayard needs to go, but more individuals to choose from must come forward in order to ensure that we are not relagated to the likes of McGoffin and Boffy and their shortsighted psuedo insights.
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written by Gary McGoffin , July 16, 2011 - 02:49 pm
It appears that we have a consensus that Bayard must go. Now let's discuss Holly.

"the first item Boffy trumpets is "terminate teacher tenure"

Not really. That statement was made in response to a direct question in Baton Rouge. And, it is the statement that has made the news for obvious reasons. However, my conversations and experience with Holly have shown broader insight into our challenges. We need to prepare all children to succeed in the classroom from kindergarten on up. We need to do more to support the teacher in the class room. This includes use of the data to track student and teacher performance throughout the school year.

"What we should know" raises a good point about tenure for bus drivers. Huh? How does that advance student performance? It may take a few years but that needs to be addressed along with the 150+ state statutes that govern school transportation systems. Remember the battle the Rickey Hardy fought to raise student athlete academic performance to 2.0. It can be done if the public gets involved and supports it.

So, decide for yourself. Right now, we have two candidates for BESE District 7. The incumbent supports and is supported by the status quo. We agree that he should go. Take the opportunity to meet Holly before reaching a conclusion based upon a sound bite and a headline. I have and I'm supporting Holly.


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written by James Melancon , July 16, 2011 - 04:20 pm
by What we should know "Much like the Jindal administration does now."
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A broad overstatement. I doubt Jindal can dismiss any teachers willy nilly or government employee without due process. Of course, if the state has no funds to pay wages, what would any Governor do?
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by What we should know "Yet, Louisiana is the only state out of all fifty to grant school bus drivers tenure."

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Add that to the elliminate list too.
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written by What we should know , July 16, 2011 - 06:14 pm
Right now, we have two candidates for District 7." So, why do we have to make a decision right now with over three months to the first election? Gary, you were quite prompt to reply to only select portions of my piece. If you know so much and are so opinionated, why do you not run for public office. Say, BESE District 7? You have an answer for, and it seems an opinion for, everything education related so if you are so determined to be involved, then do so without being the mouthpiece for Boffy.

Like any barrister, you seek to deflect what I wrote by stating that Boffy's statement was in reply to a direct question. It would seem that with all of her replies to all of the direct questions posed to her that this one garnered the headline: "Boffy: terminate teacher tenure." I don't know about you, counselor, but a headline and a piece dedicated solely to her reply to said direct question constitutes a tad bit of trumpeting on the subject. And, it was the first item(only item)mentioned in the piece with the trumpeting headline. Also, like any barrister, you seek to confuse the issue of this discussion, which is teacher tenure, by asking what has bus driver tenure to do with student academic performance? Nothing, counselor, but then you know that, don't you? The point is, if the state will not remove tenure for bus drivers, who do not advance student academic performance, then why trumpet removing it for teachers who do? I know that I won't be manipulated into making a decision that could very much impact the public education system of our state either positively or negatively by Boffy's self ordained mouthpiece who is not very good at it. Oh, as I recall, Hardy's raising of the GPA for student participation in athletics, he did by himself against greats odds and without a self ordained mouthpiece. Hardy has always had a reputation as straight shooter who relies on his drive and determination. While it appears Boffy is relying on your opinion based on your subjective facts. Big difference and absolutely no comparision between a man like Hardy and a BESE candidate of Gary McGoffin's choosing. You should not try to slide crap like that in, counselor. But then it's to be expected from you.
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written by What we should know , July 16, 2011 - 06:44 pm
Jim Melancon, so that's your answer,"Of course, if the state has no funds to pay wages, what would any governor do?"

Apparently, you are a member of the non working class. And, yes, it is Jindal's goal to dismiss anyone, willy nilly, who does not agree with him or do his bidding. If you paid attention to current events within the State of Louisiana, you'd know that. By eliminating teacher tenure, many educators worth their salt will be dismissed "willy nilly" simply because their views are not in line with the likes of Piyush Jindal and his minions. Obviously, minions like you, McGoffin, and Boffy.
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written by What we should know , July 16, 2011 - 06:45 pm
Hey, y'all win as it has become obvious you can piss much farther than me.
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written by James Melancon , July 16, 2011 - 07:32 pm
by What we should know "Obviously, minions like you, McGoffin, and Boffy."
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Since Jindal is Indian, the correct term is devotee. :-)


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written by Gary McGoffin , July 16, 2011 - 07:56 pm
Dear "What we should know", you have me at a disadvantage. You know who I am but no one knows who you are. As for Governor Jindal, I am not a fan.


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written by What we should know , July 16, 2011 - 08:44 pm
McGoffin, with regard to me: you know what you should know. By the way, you were at a disadvantage the moment you began your you are smarter and know more about this than everyone else diatribe. Your shallowness knows great depths. Again, why don't you run for public office since you are so well versed and community concerned? No! You'd rather sit on the sidelines and pass judgement on those who have the courage to run. Then, from your sideline seat, you pass your judgements on those elected who do or do not follow your philosophies. An example of sham and afraid to run. You are a sad sideline sitting barrister indeed. And yet, the public is taken in by your so-called "community involvement." Gary, you eat that up.
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written by Gary McGoffin , July 16, 2011 - 11:33 pm
It is curious to have an anonymous writer challenging me to enter a public arena. Why won't you reveal yourself?
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written by scottman , July 17, 2011 - 12:02 am
Boy I sure wish that since all you folks dislike Piyush so much you would run against him. Despite the prevailing thought I think he could be beat.
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written by Southsider , July 17, 2011 - 03:26 am
I have to agree that tenure should be dismissed. As a parent of a student who had mulitple problems with a teacher(and i'm not the only parent that problems with her), she is still teaching after cussing at my child, yelling at another parent(in front of her boss the principle). What does it take to get a teacher that is obviously there to only collect a check fired?
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written by What we should know , July 17, 2011 - 08:50 am
Touched a few nerves there, did I, Gary? What? Has your facade as community leader and pompous subjective pseudo perveyor of judgement on officials and policies been rendered a tad bit transparent? Your constant entreaties for my identity and that you are parried for sidestepping and not addressing obvious truths concerning Boffy and yourself, show you to be that which I have previously so accurately described you. Your armor had now fallen off and you can be seen for what you are. You have blinked. More than once.
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written by Reinhardt , July 17, 2011 - 08:20 pm
Boffy taught at a school with an average class size of 14 students. Students will usually do well when class sizes are that small. My class sizes average 30-33 per class and unlike Paul Breaux Middle our school is required to take everyone. Teacher of the year indeed.

For the record: Tenure guarantees no one a job. A teacher can be fired for a number of reasons. Tenure is in place to protect teachers from arbitrary or vindictive actions of an administrator. Are there teachers that need to go? You bet!! Will getting rid of tenure do that? NO! Start holding administrators responsible for giving bad teachers great evaluations because they are friends or successful coaches. That will fix the problem.
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , July 17, 2011 - 08:40 pm
Do any of you know why we have tenure in the first place? It was to avert the political nonsense of favoritism and political machinations by school boards and religious groups in the community! Despite popular mythology, a tenured teacher can be dismissed at any time for inappropriate conduct, inability to manage children and incompetence in subject matter! Those of you who want tenure eliminated, should think carefully about the results. This is a sure method to guarantee fools are in the profession alone! In my young manhood, I was a professionally trained teacher, and taught in many different sorts of school systems!
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written by evaluateme , July 18, 2011 - 06:45 pm
Job security, in any profession, should be determined by performance and not years on the job. I served on a government board that had tenured employees and I was AMAZED at the effort and time it took to remove an obviously " unacceptable "employee". As much as we talk about education reform we never do anything about it. Personally, I think tenure has to go in all government jobs. There is more abuse with it than there would be without it...times have changed and it is time for tenure to end and Louisiana to move forward. I was a certified teacher in the public school system and would rather been evaluated on my skills than my years on the job.
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written by Jeffrey Sadow , July 18, 2011 - 10:06 pm
>any teacher who refuses to teach creationism, which is the law in Louisiana,

You clearly do not know the law. Please show us where in the LSEA it requires that (see http://www.legis.state.la.us/l...doc=631000). In fact, the law expressly prohibits the teaching of creationism. This ignorance on your part makes readers doubt the veracity of anything you write.

Eliminating teacher tenure and replacing it with long-term contracts and sufficient evaluation would improve the quality of education; see http://jeffsadow.blogspot.com/...ting.html.
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written by What we should know. , July 18, 2011 - 11:14 pm
Oh, I'm sorry. It's not creationism, it's another viewpoint to evolution called intelligent design. You are obviously a stickler for semantics. Creationism, intelligent design, potato, po-ta-to, it's the same thing. But lets have it your way, kinda like Burger King, any teacher who refuses to teach intelligent design can be summarily dismissed without tenure. There's some veracity for ya.

But this I will say and I have always said: raise the stakes to become a teacher. Set the standards higher to be highered and then higher still to achieve tenure. We will then have a large contingent of teachers to want to teach because they truly enjoy it and believe in what they do. And, they are so good they cannot be summarily dismissed for any contrived reason.
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written by queenbee , July 19, 2011 - 03:22 pm
I personally don't know Ms Boffy or Mr. McGoffin, but I have witnessed classroom teachers becoming a policymaker and FAIL! Why? (i.e. see looking glass self). If teacher tenure tops Ms Boffy's list with everything that is wrong in public education, then I don't think our future looks as bright as some contend....I hope I'm wrong.
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written by Venus Soileau , July 19, 2011 - 08:48 pm
Paul Breaux Middle "picks students” and has "14-1" ratio, is false on so many levels. Boffy did not teach in a bubble, driving to Paul Breaux you would understand this is a Title I school with a very diverse student population. By the way, where do we get the idea that just because a student qualifies for gifted services he/she is any easier to teach? A gifted child does not mean the teacher does not face challenges. It is truly irrelevant what population Boffy has taught. And before any stones are thrown at me, no I do not teach gifted, I am a regular education teacher.
Furthermore, it disturbs me when people discredit another teacher for teaching gifted students. With that said, I am starting my 5th year teaching after working in the oil industry for several years. Tenure is not necessary in this profession, nor does it belong in any profession. I am effective as a teacher, therefore, I am not concerned with losing my job. Fact of the matter is, Louisiana is at the bottom of the list in the nation when it comes to education and this state must make serious changes.
On another note, I assure you, teacher tenure does not top Boffy's list of everything wrong in public education. I teach middle school students that read on an elementary school level not to buy into the propaganda they read in the media, I encourage adults to do the same. What was published is not the whole story of the interview, but the media has the right to pull out the bits and pieces that get people talking. Like any other profession, if you do not perform to a certain standard you are considered ineffective, there is a due process. I personally want the same for education, to be effective and help produce productive citizens. Do not sum up Boffy's efforts with this one article.


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written by Hope , July 19, 2011 - 10:43 pm
DO AWAY WITH TENURE & THAT DAMNED "DROP" PROGRAM which includes bus drivers (and maybe janitors & cafeteria workers too)! JUST DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT VOTE FOR INCREASED PROPERTY TAXES!!!
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , July 20, 2011 - 12:41 am
Let us not forget the four professionals that presumably advance the social-economic community: teachers, lawyers, medical doctors (animal & human), and clergy! All four contrive support from the public purse.

The vulgar untruth in this debate is pretending that a professional ought to operate as a ruthless business enterprise. This stupidity has been nourished by the "willful blindness" of criminal business enterprises devalorizing our higher institutions by withdrawing tax funds, so they can be diverted to its furtive, crony, capaitalistic criminal enterprises that reward incompetent politicians or a blackguard "statesman." There should be a healthy antagonism between business (employment) & government (taxes). When government pretends it is acting as an effective, efficient business, it is neither business nor government! This simple vulgarity results in our present plight: chaos & confusion!

The majority of sentiments expressed here are woefully inattentive to the historical record of the last 40 centuries---Why we have professional contracts in our legal and medical professions, and teachers (public education) and clergy (military) in our governmental information systems!
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written by Jason D. Faulk , July 27, 2011 - 07:28 pm
What are Boffy's stance on universal access to Pre-K and Language Immersion? I have nieces moving in from another parish and sadly they will miss out on both lifelong enhancing opportunities. We're still unequal in a number of ways, and it is sad that the opportunity to be immersed in a language is merely like playing the lotto at this point. Lafayette Parish is rich enough, all our youth should be able to enroll in immersion if they want to. Let's pay for this Lafayette.

As for tenure, what protections against retribution, political actions and other machinations would Boffy offer? Being against tenure in a blanket fashion seems an overly simplistic position to take on a complex concern such as this.
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written by Jane broussard , August 20, 2011 - 04:50 am
I would love to know what her stance is on special education issues. Especially students with disabilities having access to the general curriculum. I am so sick of hearing about stuff like tenure. If I don't do my job and my evaluations lack I get fired. There are many teachers who need to go but are protected by some crazy idea that the last in is the first out.

I also would like to know her views on the characterization of Louisiana. Wonder if she has a clue about the several of the groups being given tax payer dollars to teach our kids and using it to support over 500 visas to bring teacher from other countries and the almost 1/2 million one charter group spent on janitorial services for two schools. OR if she has a clue about ties that charter groups have to something called the Hezmit movement which is tied to Teach for America that happens to be where 90% of the young new department of education staff and RSD staff have come from. When she comes forward with a plan to stop the influx of Gulen sympathizers she has my vote. If you question these claims just google it. The Times picayune had an art icicle and a website called Charter School Scandals has some interesting information also
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written by Mason Guillory , September 24, 2011 - 01:03 am
Amen Jane...... This Boffy lady has no stance on anything. She was bought and paid for by Jindal. She brokered a deal with Jindal supporters. In exchange for them financing her campaign she will vote for Chas Roemer as BESE president and John White for LA Superintendent of Education. So if you would like a State full of Charter schools that are run by suspected terrorists groups and every education decision made by a man NEVER ever ran a school, then vote for Boffy. Bayard has my vote even if he is the lesser of two evils. He actually has the experience and history for this job. Ms. Boffy has no clue what kind of devil she sold her soul to and the two votes she has promised will not be the last thing that devil asks for. If she refuses he WILL throw her under the bus.
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