News -> INDReporter MON, AUG 29 11:40AM by Walter Pierce

Tea Party to fête candidates

It appears the tea party movement will be a player in the upcoming elections for City-Parish Council.

An invitation obtained by The Independent asks supporters to attend a Sept. 8 fundraiser for four candidates seeking to retain and/or beat incumbents in the upcoming election. Although the invitation doesn’t expressly identify the candidates as being backed by the Tea Party of Lafayette, it does ask that donations on behalf of the candidates be entrusted to “one of our leaders: Sandy Hindelang, Andrea Husband, Betty Johnson, Susan Lantrip, Ross Little Jr. and Mark Tolson.” Hindelang is identified on the Tea Party of Lafayette’s website as a member of the group’s Health Care Issues Committee; Johnson is among the group’s roughly 240 “friends” on Facebook.

The candidates being supported at the fundraiser are Jared Bellard and William Theriot, the incumbents in Districts 5 and 9, respectively; Craig Spikes, who is challenging incumbent Keith Patin in District 8; and Andy Naquin, who is seeking the District 6 seat against incumbent Sam Doré.

A fifth candidate — Joan Beduze, whose candidacy was announced briefly in The Daily Advertiser a couple of weeks ago — appears ready to challenge District 7’s Don Bertrand. Although Beduze’s campaign is evidently not being underwritten by the TPL, her Facebook page indicates links to (or “likes,” in Facebook parlance) FreedomWorks, Sarah Palin and U.S. Reps. Jeff Landry, R-New Iberia, and Michele Bachmann, R-Minnesota, among many others, suggesting at least sympathies for the tea party movement.

Sept. 8, probably not coincidentally, is the final day for qualifying for the Oct. 22 election.


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written by Compassionate One , August 29, 2011 - 12:13 pm
Walter,

I see you've been having fun with your connect the dots game.

With your line or reasoning, The Independant is supporting Keith Patin and Walter Campbell. That is if we are to connect your FB friends to you, then to your employer.

Of course, that wouldn't be a stretch or a surprise.

Just a thought .......................(dot dot dot).


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written by yesidoknow , August 29, 2011 - 12:44 pm
Why do I feel like I'm watching a remake of Inherit the Wind.
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written by Festival international Fan , August 29, 2011 - 12:53 pm
I was a tea party supporter,along with most of my friends,
until I found out that the tea party candidates do not support any funding to the Horse Farm, Festival International or any of the arts and culture venues.
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written by eiswright , August 29, 2011 - 01:06 pm
Yes, Compassionate One, he is playing connect the dots. It's called reporting. That's how it works.
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written by ragin_cajun , August 29, 2011 - 01:22 pm
Walter --

How come you never call "the tea party" and get a quote like the Advertiser does?

Would you like me to arrange some introductions for you :)

Because you've already missed at least two earlier events the TEA Party put on for these candidates. How many groups in town are in the "tea party movement" anyway? Do they all help these candidates? Are they actually raising money for candidates? How much?

I've seen A LOT of "bloviating" and speculating and insulting about the TEA Party going on here, but I'm curious about why theIND has never actually provided any real INFORMATION about the "tea party movement" in our town?

Shouldn't a reporter covering local politics be more familiar with these groups, perhaps have a working relationship with them in order to get first hand information from them about their positions on candidates and issues?
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written by Farrow , August 29, 2011 - 02:15 pm
>the Horse Farm, Festival International
>or any of the arts and culture venues

The Tea Party also does not support funding to NASA, NOAA (you know, those hurricane prediction people), FEMA, the National Parks Service, the National World War II Museum, NPR, PBS, LPB, KRVS, WRKF, and any number of other positive entities that rely at least in part on federal funding.

While I myself am a "fiscal conservative" I am overall a moderate and do not oppose such funding . . . so remind me not to vote for any of the candidates supported by the Tea Party of Lafayette.
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written by Resident , August 29, 2011 - 02:58 pm
I don't know how much the other candidates expressly identify with the "TEA Party," but I certainly won't be voting for Joan Beduze. Yikes. FreedomWorks, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann...all prominent figures in co-opting the real, grassroots TEA Party into the fold of of the Republican Establishment.

A recent Gallup poll found that a large majority of those who identify with the TEA Party are supporting Rick Perry for president. That alone says all you need to know about most of the "TEA Party" hype. There is nothing small government about Rick Perry. He is all about centralized authority, making war overseas, the war on drugs, doing away with civil liberties, evangelicizing federal government, etc. Not to mention that he is practically owned by multinational corporations and banking interests (BOA "We will help you").

Palin and Bachmann are the same type, and FreedomWorks is the main group responsible for funding and creating the "TEA Party" sold to you on Fox News.

Although I haven't conducted a poll, I'd wager that most of the Acadiana TEA Partiers also support Perry, Palin and Bachmann. Am I wrong, ragin?
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written by Your Sister's Crab , August 29, 2011 - 03:15 pm
I support the Tea Party and I say CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING . LOWER TAX's ! LESS GOVERNMENT MEANS MORE FREEDOM AND LIBERTY ! IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY !
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written by momo , August 29, 2011 - 03:21 pm



Yep, they do not support Festival International or any of the arts and culture funding.

Two of the councilmen supported by the tea party have already proposed cutting the funding out of this years budget.

Someone needs to get the word out. I don't think most tea party supporters realize this.



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written by Gerald J , August 29, 2011 - 03:33 pm
How about just concentrating on the canadate's voting record and see if his voting record matches your beliefs or views. If canadate has no voting record than examine the encumbant's voting record and you can assume his opponent has a different view or he would not be running against the incumbant. Who cares what party affiliation the canadate is associated as voting records tell the only thing that matters.
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written by ragin_cajun , August 29, 2011 - 03:51 pm
Resident --

" I haven't conducted a poll, I'd wager that " That's my whole point, Resident. Even enlightened intellects like YOU AND I can't really say what the "Acadiana TEA Partiers" think because the media in this town can't get their act together enough to go and ask them....well, the Advertiser has talked to them...but you get my meaning. So how can I POSSIBLY answer your question and call you wrong when I don't really know? If I DID know, I'd be privy to information that you don't have, and you couldn't reasonably take my word for it. So we can't really even talk about it, can we...

So instead of having reasonable public discourse, the very thing that theIND claims to be working to create among the citizenry, theIND is really just giving a forum for angry ideologues to argue without facts.

These comments make my point. Eiswright actually thinks he's read "reporting" here. Festival Fan and his friends have left the movement because they don't support his, and Durel's, pet projects. Anybody seen a statement condemning any of these things from "the tea party"? I haven't.

Then Farrow has added to the list with " NASA, NOAA (you know, those hurricane prediction people), FEMA, the National Parks Service, the National World War II Museum, NPR, PBS, LPB, KRVS, WRKF" Almost certainly his "characterization" of the tea party's position--once again, is there any basis in fact for that statement?

Probably not. So tell us, Walter. Are you gonna do something to inform the public and elevate the conversation, or will you instead just keep "stirring the pot" and giving silent assent to the rumor mongering and name calling?




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written by Walter Pierce , August 29, 2011 - 04:01 pm
ragin,
You've observed yourself have you not that there is no official Tea Party "party" per se, just an amorphous collection of loosely affiliated groups with basically similar grievances about government?
For the record, I did reach out to Ross Little, the person who sent the invitation, to find out if it was an official TPL event. He contacted me via email not long ago to say it is not TPL-sponsored, although I didn't receive a satisfactory answer regarding what he meant by "our leaders" in the invitation.
I think it's fair to say this is a Tea Party event generally, but not specifically a Tea Party of Lafayette event.
As Monday is the day we go to press and I've spent too much time on this niggling issue already, I gotta git now.
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written by momo , August 29, 2011 - 04:35 pm

Both of the tea party councilmen, Bellard & Theriot have voted to cut Festival funding. They also did not vote to fund the horse farm. They are, at this moment, trying to cut arts & culture funding. I'd say their voting record speaks loud and clear.
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written by baseball3 , August 29, 2011 - 06:46 pm
Ross Little's organization and the TEA Party of Lafayette are 2 separate entities with a few common members. In this case, The Lafayette Conservative Caucus (Little) is raising funds and endorsing candidates who believe as they do. There is nothing uncommon about it. At least they have the stones to tell you where they stand and why they support certain candidates. Unlike the Chamber of Commerce PAC, which leads people to believe (incorrectly) that they are anti-tax and speak for most local busineses. BTW, the proper way to help the Arts, The Festival and PASA is by allowing them to continue to use venues that the local government pays for and maintains. It is most certainly not by writing them a check.
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written by don't be miss lead , August 29, 2011 - 07:18 pm
they voted to cut $30,000 out of the NGOs for the festival. Trust me guys, the festival will go on. ask this about the other two. Did they vote to raise your L U S bills? Did they get rid of the red light camras? Do they vote with Joey on everything? There are so many topics that you may care about. Find out how these guys voted and vote for are aganst them because you like are dislike the way they voted.
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written by Wow , August 29, 2011 - 07:19 pm
Vote for the new guys. Give them a chance. Nothing great happened in the last term with these guys.
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written by resident , August 30, 2011 - 07:10 am
If the tea party had their way, they'd destroy the entire government and then... well they really haven't thought much about what would happen then. (They're not big on worrying about the consequences of their actions.)

Let me paint a picture for you. Without government regulations meddling in their "business", big corporations would strip americans of the protections they have enjoyed for over a century like: safe foods, safe medicines, toxic pollution and clean air.

The Aristocrats who rule the country would move into their little gated communities and turn the rest of the world into a scorched earth.

Then those "tea partyers" would realize that they were not multi-millionares and were not in "the club" and find themselves on the wrong side of the gated community. They will then know that they sold out our country for the promise of lower taxes.

But yes, your taxes would be lower, but that's because with no protections or unions your wages would be lower, you'll loose your health care (and won't be able to afford theirs) and you'll find yourself in a world where wage slave has a whole new meaning.

It is no coincidence that the dumbest people on the LPC align themselves with the tea party.
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written by realitycheck , August 30, 2011 - 07:17 am
NGO funding is a ripe area for abuse by politicians and therefore should be cut. Giving tax exempt status is more than enough support for agencies. Pointing to 2 popular recipients is a cheap shot and side steps the issue that tax dollars are being squandered in many areas and government is too big and not sustainable. Fest Intl will be just fine and the Park will happen without NGO funding.
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written by Joyce Linde/Coordinator TEA Party of Lafayette , August 30, 2011 - 07:27 am
Without contacting any member of the TEA Party of Lafayette Mr. Pierce determined, that they are sponsors of an upcoming fundraiser on Sept 8th. This is an interesting bit of reporting since neither the LOGO nor signature appear anywhere on the invitation in question.

TPL supports no one financially. Period. We provide moral support for those who work to advance a belief in smaller and less intrusive government and lower taxes.

As for funding for NGO, referring to a comment from Farrow, TPL has not taken a position regarding funding for the myriad of groups listed. As for the Horse Farm and Festival International…some of our members are for and others against…just as in any other groups. The Horse Farm, in fact, is something that the whole community defended and is willing to pay for…the process worked and that is the way it should be.

However, at a time when we, as a nation, have burdened future generations with an unsustainable debt it is time to reconsider just how our tax dollars are being spent.

If you and others will visit our website and check out our mission statement and goals our beliefs are clearly defined for all to see and you might just reconsider voting for a tea party supported candidate: www.teapartyoflafayette.com

We do thank the Daily Advertiser for fair and balanced reporting.

Joyce Linde/Coordinator
TEA Party of Lafayette



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written by NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN , August 30, 2011 - 09:10 am
Ms. Linde, I drink Lipton Green Diet Tea, Can I Play with ya'll ? Do, I Have To Become A Democrat ? Do ya'll give a Drug Screen ?
A laugh a day makes ya loose as a goose, wooly as a Yak, and horney as a Billy Goat
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written by Festival international Fan , August 30, 2011 - 09:30 am
Have you read the endorsement letters on the tea party web site?
Both say the tea party is endorsing the candidate because they voted to oppose non governmental funding. That means FESTIVAL INTERNATIONAL!
How about being honest?
Festival is in it's 26th year and it is not just my and my friends pet project, there are hundreds of volunteers and thousands of supporters.





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written by Joyce Linde/Coordinator TEA Party of Lafayette , August 30, 2011 - 09:38 am
this is a reply from one a TPL Members:

Walter Pierce's article in the IND, August 29, headlined "Tea Party to fete candidates", is painfully counterfactual.
The tea parties (plural, lower case) are not a single, monolithic, organized group. The tea parties, including Tea Party of Lafayette (TPL) are each locally self-organized, with dedicated, common-sense conservatives as members. Each group holds broadly similar views, but different priorities.

Pierce sees what only he can see, produces a non-story full of intended errors, and in his own on-line comment on his own report (August 29 at 4:01pm) states, "For the record...it is not TPL- sponsored" despite his headline and story. He allows he raised a "niggling issue".

Welcome, dear reader, to Walter Pierce's standard of journalism: Niggling.
Submitted by TPL Member



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written by ragin_cajun , August 30, 2011 - 10:00 am
Wow! That was extreme! This woman sounds like an ANARCHIST! (He wrote with sarcasm oozing from the end of his pen)

I can see why you wouldn't want to speak with the TPoL, Walter. They might tie you up and imprison you in their bomb shelther next to the freeze dried rations! ROTFLMAO
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written by Resident , August 30, 2011 - 10:16 am
Ragin, I agree entirely. And I would take your word for it.
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written by Walter Pierce , August 30, 2011 - 10:16 am
Joyce et al,
Did y'all actually read the story? The headline doesn't say "Tea Party of Lafayette to fete candidates," it says simply "Tea Party," which as you all have made clear, is "not a single, monolithic, organized group."
My apologies if my capitalizations threw you, and I probably should have used the acronym TEA anyway.
Indeed I do speculate that these candidates might rightly be considered "Tea Party-backed" and question whether TPL has a role in the soiree. Three of the four candidates for whom the Sept. 8 party is being thrown -- Bellard, Spikes and Theriot -- are endorsed by the TPL. It's on the TPL website for crying out loud.
Oh, woe is thee, y'all are so victimized by the lib'rul media!

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written by Aaron , August 30, 2011 - 05:23 pm
Leave Walter alone. When it comes to conservative politicians all he sees is rich racist Nazis who want to destroy America as we know it. We all know the type. They're partisan hacks who will never change their stripes. And I think this might be the first time I've ever seen a real editor of a real newspaper use the ridiculously overused term "librul". God this is the most immature, sophomoric, revenge-seeking rag that's ever been published. It's like 5th graders are in charge over there. I love it. What a car wreck. Its amateur hour every Wednesday morning.
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written by Walter Pierce , August 30, 2011 - 05:36 pm
Aaron,
Please, if you're going to impugn my character for employing the ridiculously overused term "librul," at least acknowledge that I was zany enough to insert an apostrophe in it: lib'rul, dude. Huge distinction.
And I believe my friend ragin cajun might take exception with your characterization of me as a "real editor at a real newspaper."
Clearly I've nothing on you in the pretense department.
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written by Heather Miller , August 30, 2011 - 05:37 pm
"And Walter, you are the only reason I pick up your paper ... It seems as if you are the only true journalist around there. Keep up the good work." -posted by Aaron on July 14, 2011.

Aaron, are your harsh criticisms always this inconsistent, or did you just forget to take your meds today?
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written by Aaron , August 30, 2011 - 06:31 pm
I forgot to take my meds today I guess. Walter's work on the BP spill was the best reporting I read on the subject. His reporting on the Tea Party, however, is about as sloppy as any of yours.
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written by Wow , August 30, 2011 - 08:02 pm
I too like some of Walter's work, but lets look at the candidates in each race and not try to make blanket votes. We can only vote in one district. So don't vote against a candidate for what another one did in another district. If each district elects the best person for the job, the parish gets a better council. Gerald had a good point. If the one in office didn't please you, give the new guy a chance.
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written by ragin_cajun , August 31, 2011 - 06:44 am
Walter--

All joking aside...are you really the editor? So y'all sit around a table and go over and discuss the stories y'all are working on? Then you have "the final say" in an informal way? Is that about it? So y'all use this kind of editorial process on the cover stories and " lead news", but not on these small, quick half-page stories--like this one? Is that how it works at theIND, roughly?

Because I've noticed that the cover stories, normally, are a bit more serious than the smaller articles. And that's what makes this all so confusing for the reader. The "RE" column is plainly going to be Walter's opinion, the cover stories are going to be pretty hard news, but the stories in between are all over the map. I think you give up objectivity when you quickly write up these smaller pieces, and I think it's a lot worse than you can see.


Maybe it's because you're playing dual roles? I have trouble editing my own writing and often ask others to edit and revise it. I think being your own editor may be like being your own attorney.


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written by RCajunrunner , August 31, 2011 - 07:27 am
From Resident:

"I don't know how much the other candidates expressly identify with the "TEA Party," but I certainly won't be voting for Joan Beduze. Yikes. FreedomWorks, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann...all prominent figures in co-opting the real, grassroots TEA Party into the fold of of the Republican Establishment."

To Resident:

Have you checked out the incumbent's Facebook page since Beduze's liking of Sarah Palin scares you? Don Bertrand lists "likes" of Sarah Palin as well, along with David Vitter (close ally of Jeff Landry) and GLENN BECK!


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written by resident , August 31, 2011 - 07:40 am
"rich racist Nazis who want to destroy America as we know it"

Dude, wake up. Rich racist nazis have been destroying America for decades. How do you think we ended up with so much debt?

Oh yea, I suppose you can blame the poor people who mostly don't vote and have zero voice in congress. Yea they're the ones.

Some people are so blind.
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written by Walter Pierce , August 31, 2011 - 07:58 am
ragin,
If my glove don't fit, I must acquit.
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , August 31, 2011 - 11:45 am
To the Group:

I forced myself to read through all these postings here twice. Once one dismisses our local ill-tempered scoundrels who post here regularly, this community really does have many sensible, well-intentioned and intelligent citizens posting here.

I view the nonsensical sociological phenomenon 'Tea Party' as an abberation in our poltical culture. I saw on television the other day that an academic study asserts that the American people revile the Tea Party more than atheists!

The question to be asked is how do these silly Tea Party people even get elected? Here two political science treatises come to mind:

"The Great Divide: Retro vs. Metro America" by John Sperling, Suzanne Helburn, Samuel George, John Morris & Carl Hunt (PoliPoint Press, 2004) 272 pp.

and

"Off Center: The Republican Revolution & the Erosion of American Democracy" by Jacob S. Hacker & Paul Pierson (Yale University Press, 2005) 261 pp.

When you think Tea Party, just think Ku Klux Klan! They have the same sort of dolts. The purpose of the Tea Party is to steal government funds for corporate interests. Cut off government services, while one is still raking in the same amount of cash out of the tax base, and give this cash to one's worthless cronies who puffed one up in the first place. At its heart is thievery! While you bitch about government, live off of it---pretty good scam, don't you think?

P.S. Heather Miller, I am coming to enjoy your articles as much as Walter's articles weekly and on-line. You have an excellent prose style! Some of your arm-chair critics here do not know what journalism is. [Journalism < Middle French, "Journal" ("daily") < Latin, "diurnus" ("of the day") < Latin, "dies" ("day"); record of the current transactions] There is a reason why the term "journalese" was coined in 1882 meaning "a style of writing held to be characteristic of newspapers." And both you and Walter are excellent at it!
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written by ragin_cajun , August 31, 2011 - 01:00 pm
"When you think Tea Party, just think Ku Klux Klan! They have the same sort of dolts. " Wow, Gaius. That's really well thought out. You have certainly elevated the public discourse here today.


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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , August 31, 2011 - 03:25 pm
[R]agin_cajun:

I share the viewpoint of the vast majority of the American people in my denunciation of the Tea Party. I have watched more than a few television programs highlighting the presumed 'Tea Party' members and their financial backers, nationally, state & local. It is a disease that has attacked our political culture, especially, the Republican Party! I am old enough to remember when Republicans were honorable, intelligent and sincere members of our communities. The party is now disreputable! The Tea Party will destroy the Republican Party; it will go the route of the Whig Party in the Nineteenth Century.

Think back to the 1920's and 1930's when the KKK was a political force in this country. I see a great deal of similarities between these two sociological phenomena. It has been revealed more than once by several different academic studies that the people who identify themselves as Tea Party advocates are merely extreme Republicans who have been hiding out in the Republican Party since the 1960s.

St. Paul expressed it well in 2 Corinthians 11:14, "Satan disguises himself as an Angel of Light." In deference to your lovely wife, I will dispense with my usual practice to quote the actual Koine Greek text of St. Paul.

To the larger group of readers here, I remind the group that the Principle of Negation is the property of Satan in our literary Western tradition. So when you here that the Republican Party is the Party of NO, just think of Satan! This is how political officers actually destroy the lives of their constituents. Not everyone can be successful at theivery without impunity as the Republican Party on the National stage.

As the ancient Roman poet, Juvenal, asserted: "If you commit the crime, endure the censure!" What you object to is my moral censure of the Tea Party!
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written by ragin_cajun , August 31, 2011 - 04:33 pm
The Tea Party wants less government. That's the extent of it. Less spending, no new taxes. That's it. With the US running annual deficits of almost $2 Trillion, I think that's responsible and reasonable.

For you to look at that call it racist, compare it to the Klan, and call it a disease on American Politics is vile demagoguery. Yet YOU accuse ME of hate speech?

You can pout and stomp your feet all you want, Gaius. The fact will not change. People who produce and pay for all these "government services" are throwing off the yoke. The adults in the room are finally starting to stand up and tell the spoiled brats in this country -- "No. You can't have that. It costs too much money".

That is what is at the bottom of all this. Those who leech are scared to death that those who produce who will turn off the spigot.

That, my friend, what YOU object to.
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written by Walter Pierce , August 31, 2011 - 04:57 pm
Oh please, ragin!
When it suits your rhetorical purposes the "Tea Party" is a principled, monolithic movement and when it doesn't it's non-centralized.
The Tea Party is many things, and racist and ignorant are certainly among them.
Is it a coincidence that the conservative, white, middle-aged demographic that overwhelmingly comprises the TP movement yawned through eight years of Bush's exploding deficits/national debt and only woke up to the "problem" when a black man was elected president?
You're not that naive.
And if the way you frame your bottom line -- leeches versus producers -- isn't the epitome of the Fox News-right wing talking point/scare tactic, I don't know what is.
Beware, ragin_cajun, the poor people are coming to get you!
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written by ragin_cajun , August 31, 2011 - 05:17 pm
Did I strike a nerve there, Walter?
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written by Walter Pierce , August 31, 2011 - 05:28 pm
Um, yes you did, ragin. That would be fair to say. ;)
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written by RCajunrunner , August 31, 2011 - 05:34 pm
"The Tea Party is many things, and racist and ignorant are certainly among them.
Is it a coincidence that the conservative, white, middle-aged demographic that overwhelmingly comprises the TP movement yawned through eight years of Bush's exploding deficits/national debt and only woke up to the "problem" when a black man was elected president?"

Congressman Alan West, Herman Cain and J.C. Watts must hate themselves. Elbert Guillory too. While I would never mistake Sen. Guillory for a true fiscal conservative, he has definitely been a friend to the local tea party group.

I would not call myself a tea partier, as I've only been to one meeting and one rally in the 4 or so years since the movement began, I will say that several who I know involved in the movement in Louisiana were, in fact, very critical of the Bush era spending policies and promotion of big government programs. However, unfortunately, PARTISAN, not racial politics played a big role in those critical of the Bush-Rove big government policies being told to sit down and shut up.

Trust me, if John Kerry had been elected President in 2008 and began with Stimulus and movement to government healthcare, no doubt the opposing voices would be just as loud.
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written by Walter Pierce , August 31, 2011 - 05:41 pm
I'm dubious, RCajunrunner.
The "movement" had its origins in Ron Paul's 2008 presidential bid, yes, but it didn't explode -- and get funded and co-opted by FreedomWorks and the Koch brothers -- until after Rick Santelli's rant on the floor of Chicago Mercantile in the spring of 2009. Or something close to that...
And it is overwhelmingly populated by white, middle-aged conservatives. Not entirely, as you correctly point out, but overwhelmingly.
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written by RCajunrunner , August 31, 2011 - 05:54 pm
I'm not exactly sure when the "tea party" officially started. I do remember there being a "tea party" money bomb for Ron Paul during the '08 Primary. So you are right about that, Walter. The tea party, despite what Ron Paul haters within the GOP like to deny, the idea did originate from his followers.

I vaguely remember the Santelli rant, and personally liking it. I believe the first tea party rally in Lafayette area was back in early 2009. That is the one rally I've attended, as I was very curious. Believe it or not, there were quite a few people mad at Republicans as well. I remember one from the crowd shouting how Rep. Boustany sold conservatives out by voting for TARP.

I just believe to call the entire tea party movement racist is either being ignorant or dishonest. Of course, there are going to be many more whites than blacks within the movement. But if you look at voting trends amongst black population, that is not surprising. The vast majority vote Democrat.

I can say this, President Obama and the Democrats pushing the drilling moratorium in the Gulf caused a few blacks, in the oil & gas industry, to change their voter affiliation. I don't know if they changed to Republican or Independent, likely IND since both parties have been failures as of late, but they told me they shed the Democrat label specifically because of the anti-oil & gas industry policies of the current administration and those Democrats in control of Congress at the time.
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written by Compassionate One , September 01, 2011 - 08:42 am
Hmmmmmm.......

Just wondering if the Tea Party has more integration than:

Walter's Face Book Friends list?

The Independent's Staff?

The Art Walk on a Saturday night? (And no, you can't include the Karma crowd)

Just wondering......
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , September 01, 2011 - 11:22 am
Adding to This On-Going, Fluid Discussion:

The word 'liberal' means "free" in Latin; the word 'conservative' means "fellow slave" in Latin. Since our presumed 'conservatives' here do not really know what constitutes 'Conservatism' [rhetorical-psychological stance rooted in religious ideology, militarism (flag-flappers, essentially), maintenance of the status quo, nostalia for the past, and false historical revision propaganda], it rewards mental sloth, greed and vanity! It represents a retreat into a private space of "autism."

Google 'French Economic Autism' for a working knowledge of what that last observation means. To change the subject here, I saw on "The Last Word" MSNBC last night Lawrence's interview with Professor Allan Lichtman who predicts Obama will win re-election. He has forecasted correctly since 1984 who would win the White House, using his model (actually based on the intelligence of the majority of the American people, which he emphasized several times during this interview) of 13 keys, Obama has 9 keys in his favor. One needs at least six keys to win election or re-election. Obama is well-positioned to win the White House again. His book is "The Keys to the White House."

To be a 'liberal' you actually have to know something, and be able to read learned books in higher mathematics, humane scholarship and cultivate refinement in your sensibility. In other words, it requires effort (plenty of self-discipline & work). To be a 'conservative' merely requires a capacity to spout mindless, trite cliches, vacuous content, and meaningless slogans!
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written by ragin_cajun , September 01, 2011 - 06:29 pm
"the word 'conservative' means "fellow slave" in Latin. " No, it doesn't. It may possibly come FROM a Latin word that means fellow slave, but that is not the same thing as to say that is the meaning of the word today.

Gaius has once again confused the ORIGIN of a word with MEANING of a word. Those are two very different things.
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , September 01, 2011 - 09:34 pm
[R]agin_cajun:

Pay attention to what I did in my post: Latin etymology & discussion of what the concept means. You are up to your usual shenanigans---slash & burn tactics. There is a carelessness and sloppiness in your postings. Study Latin morphology, then you do not have to speak inane comments to this readership! Words undergo semantic shifts. The dolts in the Tea Party's "bizarro world" have contaminated the correct notion of political conservatism---both Democratic and Republican affiliations.

Don't forget, you don't want to be around people like yourself. Selfishness and greed destroys a community; in fact, you cannot even have a polite society with such types.
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written by ragin_cajun , September 02, 2011 - 09:51 am
Gaius --

"Few traits of totalitarian regimes are at the same time so confusing to the superficial observer and yet so characteristic of the whole intellectual climate as the complete perversion of language, the change of meaning of the words by which the ideals of the new regimes are expressed"

Almost every time you post something here, you include a deliberate attempt to contort the meaning of a word. I personally have never seen anything like it, but Eastern Europeans immediately recognize it for exactly what it is, and well remember the practice from the Old Country...

Na zdorovye, eh comrade? :)
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written by PhilNdeBlanc , September 05, 2011 - 02:35 pm
As a TEA Party member, I find all these ludicrous assertions amazing. Please remember that the TEA parties stand for 3 things.
1. lower taxes.
2. smaller government.
3. support the Constitution.
anything else is incidental and outside the purview.
as for racism, the first TEA party rally I attended had two black, veteran, speakers.
many of the attendees were former military, most attendees worked or were retired, most had pretty good educations, including retired teachers.
interestingly, as a group TEA party members are amazingly polite and reserved. even when troublemakers, armed with megaphones showed up, there were no problems. when the troublemakers were invited to stop ranting, and take their turn at speaking coherently, even though we disagreed with the troublemakers, we ground our teeth and kept our lips closed.
you can tell where a TEA party event had been held. there is not one scrap of trash to be found anywhere. and the police don't bother to send extra patrolmen, because they have never had any violence. that includes the event at the Washington Mall a while back. there was no violence, people hauled trash bags and stacked them neatly for the garbage pickup.
now, Festival Internationale, NGO's, Horse Farm, those are different issues. NGO's have good and bad sides. Festivale Internationale generates enough taxes to be self supporting. I've attended many times. I support the Horse Farm. Those aren't issues specific to TEA parties.
So while y'all engage in demagoguery and villification, just remember you are irritating a hard working group of people who have made their own living with their own hands, who believe in lower taxes, smaller government, and support the Constitution.
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , September 08, 2011 - 03:11 pm
PhilNdeBlanc:

Who would not support lower taxes, less government & support of our unique Constitution in the historical annals of mankind!

The question is, How much taxation is adequate for maintenance of the Common Good? How much government is too little or too much? And which Constitution do you support? [The present one or the original Constitution?]

Under these sophomoronic slogans a great deal of evil lurks!
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