News -> INDReporter THU, OCT 6 11:14AM by Walter Pierce

‘Occupy’ movement flares in NOLA

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A screen shot from live streaming video shows what appears to be Occupy New Orleans protesters in front of City Hall.

The Occupy Wall Street movement that began three weeks ago in New York City as a protest against corporate greed and the increasingly disproportionate accumulation of wealth in the top income bracket spread to New Orleans today, Thursday, Oct. 6. According to a brief article in The Times-Picayune, protesters will march across the city and set up an encampment across the street from City Hall. Some of the protesters have vowed to live in the encampment for months. The group is also streaming the event live on its Facebook page, and based on recent video, scores of protesters are now in front of City Hall.

The Occupy Wall Street movement has spread to at least 80 other cities. The Times-Pic article also has links to reports by other media outlets.

According to Occupy New Orleans’ Facebook page:

Occupy NOLA is leaderless non-violent resistance movement composed of people from various sociopolitical and socioeconomic backgrounds. We are all inclusive. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We want to make a positive difference. Join us and help us grow!
   
The time has come to deploy against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America. It’s time for DEMOCRACY NOT CORPORATOCRACY!

Occupy NOLA exists solely to organize, publicize, and support the growing number of New Orleans residents showing support for the Occupy Wall Street movement. We stand by the developing mission of Occupy Wall Street.

As we watched the continuing marches on Wall Street and those across the nation reacting to the movement, we decided to set up a website and social media networks to provide a hub for those organizing in New Orleans and the surrounding area. Many of us cannot be there in NYC and, like them, wanted to do something.

Occupy NOLA is our way of participating in these events, in spirit and solidarity, in order to support those organizing and demonstrating in various cities and states across America.


Walter Pierce
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written by PocketfullofAces , October 06, 2011 - 05:32 pm
These people are the real greedy ones. They are living off the largesse of society. Take out the nose rings, cover up the tats, cut off the dreadlocks--AND GET A JOB, you losers!
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written by Not surprised , October 06, 2011 - 06:07 pm
PocketfullofAces is an idiot. Same sort of division and prejudgment of people, events, and politics that has kept you stupid and voting for the left or the right (same thing).
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written by Holly Golightly , October 06, 2011 - 06:42 pm
They got the wrong location, it should be Occupy the White House. Nevertheless, they look like everyday people, the common folk, the regular Joe's of the world, you know, morons.
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written by iwillbeheard , October 06, 2011 - 06:45 pm
Dear PocketfullofAces, you're an ass. Greedy? Living off the largess of society? I don't have a nose ring, a tattoo or dreadlocks. What I do have is two jobs to try and support myself and my family. I am part of that 99%. You're the loser.
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written by Dudley E. LaBauve, III , October 06, 2011 - 07:22 pm
'They' will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%.....until, and if, one or more of 'them' make it into the 1% club.
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written by scottman , October 06, 2011 - 10:16 pm
It is amazing how a poorly educated sub human like pocketfulofaces could be brainwashed into spending his miserable life fighting for the Mega Billionaires' right to become mega Trillionaires. The greed of these people is unbelievable. Surely this scum ball must think he will be next in line for the big money while in fact he will be just like us and just be happy with the crumbs that fall of their tables. Or as Ronney Rayguns called it trickle down economics.
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written by anonymous , October 06, 2011 - 10:38 pm
I have no tattoos, no dreadlocks, 2 jobs and 4 degrees and I was there protesting against our spurious wars and the trillions wasted. KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT.
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 07, 2011 - 12:37 am
Walter:

Thank you for bringing this timely issue to our neck of the woods. I love local community banks; I loathe international banks. I love local businesses; I loathe multi-national businesses. I love local institutions, I loathe international organizations.

It should be realized that human beings have a dire need to work, or they will go insane! The only purpose of government and business is employment. People who work, and are making money do not have time to engage in crime or mistake. What collection of dumbasses are responsible for our present plight? It is the misuse of computer technology by the international fiancial group. Without this extraordinary power of machine processing speed, these third-rate dolts could not swindle so easlily. So I attribute our present plight to "smart" machines and "stupid" humans!
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written by James Melancon , October 07, 2011 - 12:40 am
Success breeds contempt by those who do not understand; by those who would take by force; by those whose ignorance would level everyone to economic mediocrity. Remember Steve Jobs can be called greedy, and the world is better place.
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written by ragin_cajun , October 07, 2011 - 01:10 am
Gaius --

"The only purpose of government and business is employment."

Completely wrong. I hope that is a simple slip of the tongue, or pen. The purpose of government is to secure the rights of man. Not find you a job.

I think that's a point that's being missed by FAR too many adults in America today.

As for Occupy Wall Street, I understand there's a "manifesto" or "list of demands" on the Internet somewhere? Anybody have a link?
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written by Lafayette Resident , October 07, 2011 - 01:25 am
Who would have guessed that New Orleans could organize a group of liberals during the work day to protest the lack of distribution of wealth. Lemme guess, I is on my break.

Shocker!

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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 07, 2011 - 03:06 am
[R]agin_cajun:

You are too 19th Century in your thinking! When there are almost 7 billion humans on this planet, the role of Government extends beyond the 12 basic Rights of Man: [1.] Freedom of Assembly [2.] Freedom of Association [3.] Freedom of Conscience [4.] Freedom of Expression [5.] Freedom from Fear [6.] Freedom of Information [7.] Freedom of Movement [8.] Freedom of Press [9.] Freedom of Religion [10.] Freedom of Residence [11.] Freedom from Want & [12.] Freedom of Worship. Note our funky ten Bill of Rights are hopelessly outdated!

I observe I had two careless errors in my previous posting: "crime and mischief" & "by the international financial group"!

I will give a profound response tomorrow to you. I want to deal with the theme of "power"! After all, that is what this decentralized movement on Wall Street is all about!
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written by PocketfullofAces , October 07, 2011 - 03:27 am
I'm out scrambling to make a living, working 10-12 hours a day. No time to protest. Got to make a living and love doing it. Screw the protesting losers. I'll take Wall Street over the long-haired maggot-infested, tattooed, pierced and spoiled worthless trash infesting lower manhattan any day of the week. The only good thing about these nitwits is that they've chosen to start their shindig in the park on the cusp of winter. They'll go home when it gets cold enough because they're nothing but whining babies. Man UP!
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written by ragin_cajun , October 07, 2011 - 12:00 pm
" When there are almost 7 billion humans on this planet, the role of Government extends beyond the 12 basic Rights of Man"

No. It does not. If you've been watching the world for the last 3 years, you'll surely agree that the ENTIRE problem with this "economic downturn", or "credit bubble", is that governments in the US and Europe have borrowed all the money they possibly could to finance all these extended roles of government, and that voters have gladly voted for these "benefits" without paying for them.

If THAT'S what these protesters are trying to stop, then I'm all for them. If, on the other hand, these protesters want $20/hour minimum wage and free college education for all, then I'm with PocketfullofAces.
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written by Holly Golightly , October 07, 2011 - 01:49 pm
by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas "You are too 19th Century in your thinking!"

I believe the rights of man is 18th Century.



by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas "Note our funky ten Bill of Rights are hopelessly outdated!" I will give a profound response tomorrow to you."

Yes, you are full of profundities amongst other stuff.
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written by do they have a job? , October 07, 2011 - 03:31 pm
how can they vow to live in this protest camp for months if they have a job? How can they be there instead of working? Seriously, do they have jobs and how do they do this if they do?
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written by ragin_cajun , October 07, 2011 - 04:23 pm
People, no. They do not have jobs. Protesters don't have jobs. Politicians don't have jobs. And I wonder about journalists and account managers.
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 07, 2011 - 04:58 pm
[R]agin_cajun:

There are three items of interest here: Power, We,the People & Economics. Here I adduce ancient Hebrew & Latin learning, and modern learning.

In the Roman Catholic liturgical final doxology to the "Our Father" occurs "For the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours, now and forever." These are the three attributes of rulership (modeled on 1 Chron 29:11-13). Here, my focus is the concept "power." The locus classicus is Deuteronomy 4:34:
בְּמַסֹּת בְּאֹתֹת וּבְמוֹפְתִים וּבְמִלְחָמָה וּבְיָד חֲזָקָה וּבִזְרוֹעַ נְטוּיָה,וּבְמוֹרָאִים גְּדֹלִים
[bemassot be'otot ubemopetim ubemilehama ubeyad hazaqa ubizero' netuya ubemora'i gedolim (Spanish Churchly Hebrew transliteration imperfectly captured using the Roman alphabet) "by trials, by signs, and by wonders, and by war, and by a mighty hand, and by an outstretched arm, and by great Terrors!"] This is how the ancient Hebrew scribes, the Deuteronomistic historians, capture the awe-invoking 'Power' of Yahweh. This is the essence of Power at its raw, brutal core.

What is meant by the concept, "We, the people", in a political arrangement? Here the locus classicus is Cicero's politico-philosophical treatise, De re publica, 1.25: coetus multitudinis juris consensu et utilitatis communione sociatus ["a group associated by consensus on what is the law, and ties of mutual interest"], furthermore, Aurelius Augustinus (St. Augustine) allegedly quotes another Ciceronian definition of what is meant by the "people" in his De civitate Dei, 19.21: multitudo hominum communi consensu divini et humani juris sociata in unum ["a group of men associated into a single whole by common consent on what is divine and human law"]. Cicero was the inspiration for our Founding Fathers to select a 'Republic', since it has admixtures of monarchy (President), oligarchy (Congressional Senate) & democracy (Congressional House), hence it was believed to be the most stable form of government.

Lastly, I wanted to share this obscure passage in Adam Smith's economic treatise, Wealth of Nations, Vol. II, book iv, Chapter 7, part iii: "To found a great empire for the sole purpose of raising up a people of customers, may at first sight appear a project fit only for a nation of shopkeepers. It is, however, a project altogether unfit for a nation of shopkeepers; but extremely fit for a nation that is governed by shopkeepers."

Internalize these observations, and ask yourself, What have we become as a nation?


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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 07, 2011 - 05:13 pm
To Holly Golightly:

I fear you are too right in the general drift of my observations. You certainly are correct about the 18th Century [America & France] being the century to formulate the 'Rights of Man.' As you would expect the actual drill-down details are for more complicated. The legal notion of 'right' is an ancient Stoic philosophical notion incorporated into Roman law over four centuries. St. Thomas Aquinas is the first philosopher to give the notion philosophical coherence & clarity. The English philosopher, John Locke in his Oxford Lectures of the 1660's, elaborated the notion further.

The point of my mild sarcastic observation was that we really do need a "fresh" Constitution & a more competent "Bill of Rights" for the 21st Century. It was the ancient philosopher Aristotle who first gathered 158 Constitutions from throughout the Greek world (a massive research project for his School, Lyceum), and made the first empirical study of the relationship between the sort of Constitution a people were governed by and their well-being!

I trust this satisfies your "amongst other stuff" snear towards my ways here.
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written by ragin_cajun , October 07, 2011 - 06:29 pm
Gaius--

Thanks for the murky, obscure, and incomplete history of "the rights of Man". I hope you're not a history professor. So how did you post the Hebrew characters? Can I post Cyrillic?
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 07, 2011 - 09:05 pm
[R]agin_cajun:

It was not my intention to discourse on the historical development of the notion, "The Rights of Man." It is a formidable topic demanding the highest level of erudition. Otherwise, I would have cited the ancient philosophical Stoic fragments from Paenetius and Posidonius. I would have mentioned the February 13th, 1689, "Bill of Rights" at the Convention Parliament at Westminster in England. Also, The Virginia Bill of Rights adopted on June 12th, 1776 by the Virginia Convention. And most importantly, I would have cited the August 27th, 1789 "Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen" by the French Assembly modeled on England & America 'Bill of Rights'.

But [R]agin-cajun, you do not believe in the "Rights of Man." You are a partisan of vulgar "conservatism," whose author as a political ideology was Edmund Burke. Read his denunciation of the "pretended 'rights of man'" in his three rhetorical treatises, "Reflections on the Revolution in France," "Appeal from the New to the Old Whig," and "Letter to a Noble Lord."

Lastly, Your reflections on the "Occupy Wall Street" movement is incompetent. You are believing your own Republican falsehoods, uttered by the mouthpieces of the smaller Republican Kleptocracy. There is actually 20% unemployment [not the official 9.1%]; there is 31 million Americans unemployed [not 14 million]!
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written by Resident , October 08, 2011 - 08:32 pm
Ragin said:
"If you've been watching the world for the last 3 years, you'll surely agree that the ENTIRE problem with this "economic downturn", or "credit bubble", is that governments in the US and Europe have borrowed all the money they possibly could to finance all these extended roles of government, and that voters have gladly voted for these "benefits" without paying for them."

I hope that was a simple slip of the tongue, or pen. If you believe the problem was/is entirely government and not at least as much the fault of bankers and Wall St. investment firms that created ludicrous schemes with our pensions and wealth, then you've got some serious blinders on. Same if you don't believe those same people have enormous influence on government to tweak the rules to their favor.

This occupation of Wall St. is what should have happened right after the TARP bailout when government, the Fed, and Wall St. colluded to give trillions of our money to the very crooks who played a hand in the collapse. This is about ending the extremely disproportionate amount of influence that the 1% has over the 99%. More power to them and I hope it grows, despite the best efforts of the Wall St. Praetorian Guard (mainstream media) and jerks like PocketfullofAces who ridicule people protesting for people like him.
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 09, 2011 - 02:27 am
Resident:

Your lucid observations are modestly stated. I would only add for the readership here that in an 18-month period $12 Trillion Dollars of our national wealth was lost (around the 2008 time-frame): we went from $62 Trillion Dollars to $50 Trillion Dollars of lost wealth. Furthermore, $1 Trillion Dollars was lost by the Middle Class in their IRA accounts. Now Wall Street is planning to steal another $10 Trillion Dollars of our national wealth with their deregulation schemes. Why there is to be $6 Billion Dollars spent on this Presidential 2012 Election. Pretty good pay-off for Wall Street! Hence, Occupy Wall Street (decentralized) Movement across this nation!
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written by ragin_cajun , October 09, 2011 - 03:45 pm
Resident --

Unlike Gaius, I can, and will, explain what I wrote and support my position...:)

First of all, Greece and the European Union are not in the situation they're in right now because of the "banks" or "Wall Street". They're in a mess ENTIRELY of their own making because half the countries in the EU have borrowed too much money. The US has, too.

Also, TARP did not "give" trillions, it LOANED trillions, and a lot of that has been repaid with interest. But, I do agree that TARP was a bad idea because it sets the stage for MORE shennanigans later -- "moral hazzard".


I'll agree that "Wall Street" SHARES some blame in this. But the VAST MAJORITY of the blame in all this goes to politicians and individuals who borrowed too much money, won't repay it, and now want out of the loan. People are "walking away" from their homes. Governments are "defaulting".

And I can't help but notice that A LOT of the borrowing that hasn't been repaid was made possible, not ONLY by banks, but ALSO by political pressure. Governments run deficits because elected officials spend too much. High risk home loans are made possible by political pressure from groups that represent low income people on the basis of race and ethnicity. Those loans are agreed to by people who know full and well they can't afford the house they're buying...or the "program" they're starting "for the good of society".

It just doesn't seem fair to me to say that "Wall Street" is the problem when government mandated that banks make risky home loans to low income people, government mandated that they clean up their balance sheets and get rid of the high risk home loans, government then refused to buy those high risk loans (Freddie and Fannie said "no mas"), and government ALLOWED banks to sell MBS's, CDO's, credit default swaps,etc. The US government was DEEPLY involved in all this every step of the way.

I'd say this whole mess is a demonstration of what government control of markets gets you. "Wall Street" is HEAVILY regulated by Federal and State governments. If you don't like what's happened, how can you possibly think MORE GOVERNMENT REGULATION will make it better the next time?!

Now that you've weighed in on this, though. Let's get back to my original question. What is the position of the Wall Street protesters? I'd like to know what they want, what they believe. Can YOU tell me that?

I think that a sensible approach would be to limit the role of government which will in turn limit the influence of "big business". If we hobble business, and leave government power in tact, what fills the vacuum? It makes no sense to take power from corporations and give it over to bureaucrats. Because bureaucrats and politicians have proven that they will make decisions based on political pressure and political expediency.

If THAT's what "Occupy Wall Street" is about, then I'm in full support. If, on the other hand, they're marching for more government handouts, then I'd say that's left-wing craziness considering the debt to GDP ratio of developed countries right now.
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written by ragin_cajun , October 09, 2011 - 04:58 pm
"This occupation of Wall St. is what should have happened right after the TARP bailout "

As I recall, "bailouts" was what got the TEA Party movement started. The complaints, as I recall, were TARP, the first stimulus plan, and federal healthcare legislation.
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written by the original northsidian , October 09, 2011 - 09:53 pm
Gaius;Ragin, It's the bailouts and the lack of prosecutions that pisses people off! What don't ya'll understand about that? Regular folk are tired of the 2 1/2 crooked!
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written by ragin_cajun , October 10, 2011 - 01:51 am
I understand that perfectly. So who should we prosecute?
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written by Holly Golightly , October 10, 2011 - 02:12 pm
Who do we prosecute? Obviously, we get Gaius Cilnius Maecenas, after all he knows everything or a least quotes from others who know everything. On second thought, Gaius Cilnius Maecenas, does not have any thoughts of his own, so he's just a minion in the conspiracy.
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written by 99% , October 10, 2011 - 02:16 pm
"What is the position of the Wall Street protesters?"
Really? You don't know? That's pretty sad. But not surprising.

Contrary to what you have heard on Fox News and your Republican leaders...
They are looking for JOBS not handouts.

They want CORPORATIONS (You know the ones who came into our towns, put our mom and pop stores out of business and now only hire mom and pop to work part time so they don't have to pay for insurance and other basic needs of the people they employ) who are sitting on RECORD SETTING AMOUNTS OF MONEY to start using some of that money to start hiring people.

They want AMERICAN Corporations to quit acting like F-ING TRAITORS TO THIS COUNTRY and to start putting AMERICANS back to work so we can get out of this economic mess that THEY got us into. They want AMERICAN CORPORATIONS to quit putting their 1% elitist stockholders PROFITS before AMERICAN FAMILIES.

Is that too much to ask? Is that really to F-ing much to ask?
That for once, corporations do the right thing and pay their employees a living wage, with a full time job that pays enough to properly insure their family?


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/corporate-profits-share-of-pie-most-in-60-years-2011-07-29
(straight from your beloved Rupert's Mouth)

That is their "position"

Anyone who can't see that the super wealthy are using their money, power and influence to corrupt congress into doing their bidding is ...
well let's see, probably sitting in Lafayette LA, working for a company that gets most of it's income from the oil industry... Am I right Ragin? Living in your little bubble. Watching your Fox News (owned and operated by the 1%). Completely oblivious to the reality of the world. Because Ragin hasn't been laid off, lost his retirement, had his insurance dropped because he got sick, because it hasn't happened to him, then everyone else is doing it wrong.
Everyone else is obviously a pot smokin hippy and hasn't worked a day in their life.

Nevermind the fact that he lives in one of the richest cities in the country, totally buffered by the umbrella of big oil.

"So who should we prosecute?"

The 1%

Oh and about this:
"As for Occupy Wall Street, I understand there's a "manifesto" or "list of demands" on the Internet somewhere? Anybody have a link?"

No once again you are wrong, there is no Manifesto There is no "official" It's just alot of pissed off people who are not clueless about what is going on. The list is no longer where it was posted because the guy who posted it said the media totally took it wrong and blew it out of proportion.


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written by ragin_cajun , October 10, 2011 - 03:42 pm
99%

Thanks for the tirade. You're about as helpful as Gaius. I asked because I freely admit that I don't know what these people want. Your response doesn't help too much--"evil corporations"?

I hope Resident has something more to offer.


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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 10, 2011 - 04:13 pm
[R]agin_cajun, Holly & 99%:

There is merit to all three of your sentiments, especially, 99%. The more we quote accurate 'coram publico' [Latin, "public knowledge"], the less we shall disagree here. Does one really not expect peaceful social protests, especially amongst our young (25% of them are unemployed), when so many of our fellow Americans are out of work? It should never be forgotten that Work is a vital need of human beings, or they will go insane. One should not forget the devastating effects of a lack of income (poverty) wedded to helplessness: dearth, destitution, despair, derangement and death by 'mors voluntaria' [Voluntary Death or Suicide]! Let us have some humane feeling, compassion & serious concern for our fellow Americans! We are all in this together! We require $5 Trillion Dollars of Investment over a ten year period to even have a future in our Society!
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 10, 2011 - 05:06 pm
[R]agin_cajun:

You can't be so dense that you do not know what Occupy Wall Street is all about? Read your hated Liberal Commentator, Keith Olbermann, at www.current.com . Also, the public intellectual, the Philosopher Slavoj Zizek: "The problem is the system" and "We are allowed to think about alternatives." Then go back to your myopic Republican spin-masters for your latest injection of 'ignorance, hatred & greed' punditry!
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written by ragin_cajun , October 10, 2011 - 05:10 pm
I have all the empathy in the world for productive diligent people who have had their lives turned upside down by social/economic upheaval. I don't think that MORE social/economic upheaval is going to help anyone, whether they're employed or not.

I have no problem at all with peaceful social protests or those who engage in them....unlike most of the commenters here and the reporters.

And I would greatly appreciate some "accurate public knowledge" about the Occupy Wall Street movement. Do you have some to share?
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written by ragin_cajun , October 10, 2011 - 06:28 pm
Gaius --


http://current.com/shows/countdown/blog/keith-olbermann-declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city-co-authors-ryan-hoffman-and-lex-rendon

So is this what we all agree is the position of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement? This is it?

Is this what I, as a reasonable and unbiased citizen, am to look at when evaluating the merit of the movement?

Yes, or no.
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written by James Melancon , October 10, 2011 - 06:49 pm
written by 99%

"who are sitting on RECORD SETTING AMOUNTS OF MONEY to start using some of that money to start hiring people."
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There is a lot of cash but hire people to do what? With government policy in disarray and a looming deficit the future prospects are dim. Is it logical to give people a paycheck to do nothing? If was your money would you pay people to do nothing?

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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 10, 2011 - 07:10 pm
[R]agin_cajun & Monsieur James Melancon:

Excellent points! I suspect that a local brilliant 'Software Engineer' would have much to teach all of us here. We have many such intellectual minds in our land, due to our brilliant local University in Advanced Computer Science! At the core of this movement is the interaction of "systems" by code programming. I remember many years back that a brilliant software engineer that was responsible for permitting 22,000 software engineering languages to inter-communicate on the global cable AT&T project, "I have outdone God in human languages!" Of course, he was correct!
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written by ragin_cajun , October 10, 2011 - 08:48 pm
Gaius--

Please answer..."So is this what we all agree is the position of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement? This is it?

Is this what I, as a reasonable and unbiased citizen, am to look at when evaluating the merit of the movement? "
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 10, 2011 - 09:58 pm
[R]agin_cajun:

Merit of the movement? Too soon to define. It is a decentralized movement based on 'social networking' technology. Everyone is a "participant," there are no "leaders." It is all about Jobs! Is the only purpose of a society---profit making? The "system" is not fair. The larger society does not work for the individual, and his/her advancement by playing by the rules. There is more to life than chaining a human dog to a post for economic plunder. It is about well-being! We have serious work to do in this society, if we are to advance our "greatness." Should we just permit Wall Street & Corporations to rob our National Treasury to make their quarterly bottom-line profts? As a "reasonable and unbiased citizen" [Which, of course, is not true; we all carry the baggage of conscious bias (Republican Conservatives) and unconscious bias (Republican-Democratic-Independent citizens)] your input is just as valuable as mine to this movement. This is about a proper use of the formidable knowledge we have gathered in this Society over the last 70 years. Also, a proper use of technology to aid our 'temporum conditio' [Latin, "The Condition of the Age"]. We really do know how to make a more just, humane and doable economy for everyone! Sit back, and internalize the thousands of contradictory, paradoxical sentiments expressed by thousands and thousands of our people all across this land. Don't forget the obvious: $5 Trillion Dollars of Investment over the next ten years! If we go down the tubes, we literally take the world with us; we are still the most advanced Economy. We will need such men as you, [R]agin_cajun, to protect the 'conservative' sentiment in Social Democratic Liberalism. You must protect your personal Wealth from Wall Street greed, as the rest of us!
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written by ragin_cajun , October 11, 2011 - 01:12 pm
So people are marching in the streets for they know not what. And commenters here are angrily attacking me for merely asking what it is these protesters want. Interesting.

"Only in a union of the workers of all nations will you be victorious over capitalism and liberated from exploitation." Does that sound familiar?

I think that instead of trying to determine "proper use of the formidable knowledge we have gathered in this Society over the last 70 years", we should remember the lessons of human history. There is no "new information" that will make collectivism work this time around. There are no new social conditions that will finally make it workable.

But, I do agree that "If we go down the tubes, we literally take the world with us; we are still the most advanced Economy." That is true.


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written by Not surprised , October 11, 2011 - 06:03 pm
Occupy the Fed. Audit the Fed. End the "fed." Period.
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written by Gaius Cilnius Maecenas , October 11, 2011 - 06:44 pm
[R]agin_cajun:

It is common knowledge that Union workers make more money than non-Union workers. Your quote above about capitalism and exploitation does sound too Communistic or Socialistic to me. I would use the older term, "oppressive working conditions without proper regard for safety & well-being of your workers."

Your insight on "collectivism" sounds too Russian to me. There does seem to be a leveling out of hierarchy due to the explosion in knowledge, and the affordability & accessibility to it, however.

Are you brushing up on your Russian? I see they are coming to Lafayette, Louisiana. Is that why you had an interest in the Russian Cyrillic alphabet? It is easy to master, if you know Greek.

I don't think anyone wants our "new Information" to work so failed old ideas can gain a new footing. Furthermore, I would say that we do have a "new" social condition due to the globalization of finance, manufacturing & technology.
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written by Cracklin Patin , October 14, 2011 - 07:26 pm
According to Yahoo News, the We Are The 99% movement is now 56%. Still a majority but dropping.
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written by Whip it good , October 20, 2011 - 01:52 pm
Occupy what? I think they got the wrong place. . .

Worth noting: From the Washington Post,

"Federal employees whose compensation averages more than $126,000 and the nation's greatest concentration of
lawyers helped Washington edge out San Jose as the wealthiest U.S. metropolitan area, government data show.
The U.S. capital has swapped top spots with Silicon Valley, according to recent Census Bureau figures, with the
typical household in the Washington metro area earning $84,523 last year. The national median income for 2010
was $50,046".
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written by Inupara , December 14, 2011 - 03:13 am
these ppl need a reality check. if all of you are protesting then how is the economy suppose to get any better? don't you ppl have lives or jobs? im sick and tired of watching the news and hearing about how their still loitering around and protesting. life's unfair, build a bridge and get over it.
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